Why SDA Apologists Lie: An Exam of Adventist Pathology

Hey there you know when I started answering adventism I had to think of the most succinct way to answer the question why answering adventism to which the response became our tagline because truth matters and while it succinctly explains why this platform needed to exist it also speaks to the SDA Church’s long track record and modus operandi of lying about and slandering anyone that thinks to question them it’s important to understand that all the way back to DM canite through to the present day the SDA church has had a go-to game plan that they have relied on to try and

Silence any dissenting voices one of the earliest examples of this is actually documented in can right’s Infamous 7th Day adventism renounced in speaking about his experience upon departing adventism he writes it cost me a terrible struggle and a great sacrifice for in doing it I had to leave all my lifelong friends the cherished hopes of my youth the whole work of my life all the means of my support every honorable position I held and bring upon myself reproach hatred and persecution I had to begin life a new among strangers with untried methods uncertain where to go

And what to do no one who has not tried it can never begin to realize the fearful struggle it requires it is the dread of all of this which holds many of them who are yet dissatisfied where they are I know that this is so for many have confessed it to me and yet remained where they were anyone of cander and fairness can see readily that self-interest and personal ambition would have held me with them yet as soon as I did leave them though I went out quietly and peaceably and let them entirely alone and even spoke favorably of them they immediately attributed to

Me all sorts of evil motives base sins and ambitious designs they seem to feel a sacred duty to blast my reputation and destroy my influence if possible apostate was the epithet all applied to me I was compared to balum to Kora Dayan and abam to Judas Deus and a whole list of other evil characters not one one honest or worthy motive was granted me the meanest and wickedest reports were circulated as to what I had done or said things that I would despise even to think of yet all were eagerly accepted and believed as undoubted truth but I expect it for it is the way all are

Treated who dare to leave them and give reason for it it’s almost as if canri wrote those words yesterday because this has not changed it does not matter how sound a person’s biblical Exposition is for leaving the movement or how valid ones theological concerns are you will be branded and tarnished as a Benedict Arnold a traitor a Judas es scariot who is angry and bitter if you decide to speak up it will be believed by those within the movement who are eager to accept the lies that are put forth about you and in the past this tactic has worked turn on the SDA printing presses

And mass-produced media to circulate and tarnish the critic’s name and reputation to spread the information faster and more effectively than the one loan individual that’s being slandered could keep up with but a new New Day Has dawned in the technological era namely with the Inception of the internet this however has not stopped the SDA Church nor her Defenders from trying to still utilize this game plan lie distort slander manipulate and twist the facts just take for example my friend Steve Daley the same Playbook was run on him by Alberto Tim from the LG white estate

Regarding Dr dy’s crucial work with regards to Ellen White’s pathology and plagiarism instead of dealing with the mountain of primary source documentation in Steve’s books Steve was branded as a bitter and angry critic that had an ax to grind with the SDA church and doesn’t know what they actually believe even though he was an educator in their Organization for over two decades now it’s important to note that not every individual SDA is like this of course there are many great genuine and sincere sdas many of whom I call friends and family however this pathology Playbook

Is still alive and well amongst the organization’s leadership and those died in the SDA wool types that will defend adventism at all costs even if it means lying slandering and manipulating I’ve long said and will continue to say that answering adventism is not a response drama Outlet we’re not here for just clicks we’re not here for the current cultural Buzz or whatever it may be but when this Playbook is trying to be used on us it becomes necessary to speak for our organization share the receipts with the world and let the truth Prevail which is exactly what we’re going to be

Doing I was recently made aware that Edwin kado of the Advent Defense League is still circulating the lie that this platform is afraid of debating him periodically someone will come over from their Channel and comment on our videos asking why a debate hasn’t taken place to which we always respond with a long email that I sent him in August of 2023 as can be seen on a community post they made about this platform on April 14 2024 an individual commented about us responding to inquiries about the Avent Defense League to which they said in part I don’t know if this email is real

But he has straight beef with ADL to which another user commented I saw it too seems like a cop out miles cannot control the narrative outside of his bubble followed up by Edwin Cado who wrote yes I saw he did that just to provide some excuse not to debate ADL I feel bad for his audience who only got a snippet of the email with his twist no worries there’s absolutely nothing miles can do to intimidate me or ADL I have a very Carefree attitude towards how critics want to portray my character nevertheless I’ll be responding to that soon as well Edwin now Edwin we are going to be

Looking at the entire email chain here and we will let people determine for themselves your character and if I am twisting anything but before proceeding I want to highlight another aspect of the Adventist pathology the SDA victim complex the SDA movement has long pumped up its adherence that the whole world is being stirred up toward them and will one day hunt them down globally which is why it’s no shock that Mr kado would think that something as simple as copying and pasting an email that he himself has access to is somehow an attempt to intimidate him or twist

Things this is something else that canri wrote about in his book when it came to his written back in Forth exchanges with SDA leaders who exhibited the same sort of retort that they were being attacked by an angry critic but despite the other digital mudslinging of the ADL supporters Edwin told his audience that we share this email with people just to provide some excuse to not debate him not only this but apparently only a snippet is shared with my own twist now I’ll point out which message in the entire is the one that is copied and pasted when I get to it and let you all

See if it is only a snippet or not but very clearly he continues to tell people that I am scared of them I’m apparently making excuses to avoid debating him because of this but in the same breath I’m also allegedly trying to intimidate him yet as you’re about to see Edwin knows that he is lying he knows why he is ignored by this platform and he knows the actual reason why but that does not stop him from lying about it to start us off before the answering adventism organization was officially up and running in November of 2022 Edwin engaged me on Facebook now this was my

Introduction to him I did not know this man from Adam this exchange led to my offer to debate Daniel 8:14 and 1844 to which he told me to email him to set it up which is where the engagement begins all right so I wrote Edwin I’m happy to debate any point of Adventist theology my proposal would be Daniel 8:14 and 1844 topic could be does Daniel 8:14 point to 1844 or some variant of that I’m happy with a formal debate structure of openings rebuttal cross- examinations and closings or like my debate next week I’m happy with a more open format dialogue as opposed to a debate your

Call I’m happy to host the debate on my YouTube channel and we can have a free flowing back and forth focused strictly on our debate topic you’re happy to reproduce the video on your channel as well looking forward to it very clear concise respectful and forthright I had a preference but I would debate any aspect of SDA theology proper to which Mr Cado responded by saying I’m interested in the following topics in this order the Sabbath The Law of God the heavenly Sanctuary the state of the Dead Hellfire the spirit of Prophecy for number five it doesn’t mean I debate

What Ellen White said written or may have written whether she passed or failed the test of a prophet I don’t debate her writings at all as I believe debates should be biblical I’m interested in the general topic of the spirit of Prophecy whether it’s a legitimate biblical Doctrine such as if prophecy or prophetic utterances ended with the early church or not types of prophets and prophecies things like that also I recently announced publicly that I’m on a sabatical for a few months from Ministry work as I have to handle some unfortunate circumstances with my family

And businesses a few months however should give us adequate time to prep PR likely I won’t be available to restart until about September or October of the incoming Year my Ministry volunteers and employees however will still be active I comment on posts here and there but committing to the typical videos debates writing articles and so on is on pause for me right now the debate would be streamed from both our channels and we need a neutral moderator I enjoy the Oxford debate format you may want to check out a debate of mine at my channel to see how I debate search Advent

Defense League on YouTube and you can find written debates on my website which of the above topics are you most interested in Edwin currently watching your debate on the investigative judgment so I got back the five standard vague topics that Adventists like to discuss with zero focusing in on the SDA distinctive aspect of each he didn’t want to have to defend Ellen White for example but was willing to debate the topic of the spirit of Prophecy and if generally speaking it is a legitimate biblical Doctrine but he wasn’t interested in bringing Ellen White into

It my proposal was very specific and I was open to debating something outside of 1844 and Daniel 814 but again specifics not vague generalities that allow sdas to not have to own their actual beliefs that ultimately come from the great controversy worldview which is why there was a delay in my response jumping us up to December 5th where Edwin sent a follow-up email that reads hi miles I replied to your previous email but didn’t receive a reply so I’m wondering if my email ever arrived at your inbox Edwin to which I then replied by saying hi Edwin yes I received it but

We need to be specific on what exactly you want to debate on each what about the Sabbath what about the law of God what about the Heavenly sanctuary I’m a sabari the SDA Church doesn’t have a monopoly on this so unless you want to debate the Sabbath as a seal debating that really isn’t worth the time I’m not an antinomian I’m a theonomist I don’t reject the law of God so unless you want to debate the eternality of the decalogue in heaven or that the decalogue is the standard by which one is judged in the investigative judgment debating this is moot unless you want to

Debate the distinctives of your church there really is no need plenty of debates exist already over the charismatic gifts Soul sleep Eternal conscious torment Etc so very clearcut and this is still my disposition today I have zero interest in debating vague generalities especially topics that there are already a plethora of debates on however Edwin had this to say in response hi miles a few things I’d like to tell you having watched your last two debates it seems to me you won’t be able to act professionally in a debate with me constantly interrupting your opponent

In that manner and getting agitated to the point of having to apologize to him will only frustrate me and make me regret agreeing to it among other things like sucking your teeth rolling your eyes and then trying to mask it all by saying it’s just that you’re too passionate then trying to manipulate your opponent by repeatedly calling him to repent and come to your side of beliefs may sound nice but you didn’t convince him in the first place emotional Appeals are not proper in a debate like this especially where two people are arguing rather than talking

It’s the facts that make the appeals please just put the emotions aside if we debate that said you likely don’t care about my opinion anyways but I’ve decided to take some time and pray about doing a debate with you lest I make a decision that the Lord would prefer I not make this might be good for you now regarding a topic I watched with the anticipation your latest video regarding where Jesus ascended to frankly I don’t think you did much of anything so despite kn your position I have no clue how you intended on proving it you’ll Pride just say I didn’t pay attention no

Matter I’m hoping part two does a better job and once I understand better what you believe or rather how you prove what you believe I thought we could debate this very point so here’s what I propose proposition Jesus ascended directly to the most holy place of the Heavenly Sanctuary at his Ascension and began his Heavenly ministration there bypassing the holy place you affirm I deny of course this can be modified as we come to an agreement some requirements to keep it balanced and fair two moderators one an Adventist and another a non-adventist and a clear format in

Writing so there’s no confusion miles to this day I regret a debate I had with a Roman Catholic because he acted the same way I certainly don’t want to repeat that mistake and waste precious time preparing and debating I would have spent with my family but I’ll admit your material was better than his though Edwin so instead of just shooting back that specific topic and keeping things cordial he includes a bunch of backhanded commentary like that a Roman Catholic wasted his precious time before and he hopes that I don’t do the same as if everyone else’s time isn’t also

Valuable this was entirely unnecessary and had he not been an arrogant prick leaving a sour taste in my mouth the debate would have probably been in the history books but because he watched previous debates that I had done he said that I wasn’t trusted to act professional in a debate with him so he decided to take some time to pray and reconsider lest he make the decision that the Lord would prefer he not make now before responding that same day I did a little bit more digging on this individual which confirmed my suspicions that this gentleman has what I call the

Adventist Aura thankfully not all Adventists have this but if you are a former Adventist you know exactly what I’m talking about at a certain point you get tired of engaging with these types of individuals and when I realized that that’s what I was dealing with I helped answer his prayer for him which led to my reply his words and italics and my response to each section of the message you just saw below that Edwin first off it’s funny that you want to pull the moral superiority route when little do you know I see your guys’ comments in your Facebook group you’re full of it

Miss me with your feeble attempts to act like a high and mighty man of God again I’ve seen your comments you’re a gossip and a liar do not worry I have the receipts secondly I wasn’t manipulating anyone I called Keith to repent because he was defending and espousing damnable heresy my elders agreed with this call you guys espouse doctrines of demons I’d tell you the same thing if you defended and believed that same thing thing it isn’t just an alternative atonement Theory it’s straight up heresy Keith tried pulling this nonsense in the debate you don’t think I’m a Christian

Because I disagree with you when no that isn’t it at all I don’t call Christus Victor adherence Heretics I don’t call Ransom Theory adherence Heretics it has nothing to do with my opinion you guys believe atonement is accomplished by Satan and Jesus period this is Blasphemous heresy I simply wanted it on record for the Christian world to see that this isn’t indeed what you guys teach and believe so that when I make videos addressing it all the Adventists that show up and try and say we don’t believe that will have to take it up with Pastors in their own church who

Publicly defended it same with the first debate Anthony openly stated I don’t think you are a Christian because I deny the investigative judgment and Sanctuary teaching did I whine and get offended no I respected him for that and I said the same thing to him again after the debate was over he had the coones to State what he believed openly and told me after the debate I needed to repent or I was going to be annihilated did I cry foul Edwin nope I respect him way more than you and Keith because he wasn’t a coward thirdly did you see the chain of the entirety of

Keith and I’s discussion all the way back from September you wanted to tell people you saw the agreed upon rules in your closed Facebook group so where’s your receipts on that you said I didn’t follow the agreed upon rules so show your evidence bud I have the receipts do you as can be seen from a post of an individual that posted a link to the debate in reference in the Advent defense League’s Facebook group The SDA Pastor that I debated Keith Bowman he commented on the link and referred to me by way of analogy as a pig he then proceeded to claim that he was forced

Into a debate format that he didn’t agree to and then myself and the moderator got upset when in the debate he didn’t follow the agreed upon format and rules but instead did what he had pre-planned anyways Edwin kado commented on the same post stating that I couldn’t follow the rules of debate the exact same thing that he stated in his email clearly evidencing he didn’t even know what the rules or agreed upon format was but as Sean alfeld rightly pointed out having seen the receipts Keith was lying yet the Adventist in their Facebook group fell for it and rallied around him but

Yes Keith was lying as here is the thread that shows the final agreed upon format that he sought to change around the day of the debate which it did the opening statements ended up being 5 minutes longer than anticipated but it did not include a 15minute uninterrupted monologue for Keith to preach and it was because of this cheap trick by Keith that my demeanor in the debate totally changed and it became strictly about having this on record you’re agreeing that both goats function as a sin offering and Leviticus 16:10 says the scapegoat had atonement made on it so in

Your antitype where Satan is the scapegoat does the scapegoat have atonement made on it because you guys don’t believe the atonement is finished yet correct correct we believe that atonement is a process so and when does it end is it after the scapegoat or is it before the scapegoat it is after the scapegoat after the scapegoat after the scapegoat right so you believe that Jesus and Satan both partake in the atonement this is Blasphemous heresy and you need to repent of this so with that out of the way back to the email I told Keith in September when approaching him

About debating that he wasn’t going to Vin me of his position and I wasn’t going to convince him that’s not the point of a debate the debate is for the audience to see and hear arguments and see which side stands it wasn’t an emotional appeal either it was someone who realizes the severity of what your church teaches and I wanted to convey that to the audience call that whatever you want I won’t stand before you on Judgment Day the Lord knows my heart and if I was just trying to manipulate or if I actually have a burden for sdas you’re speaking on stuff you know nothing about

After seeing how much of a coward you are when you think people aren’t watching I have zero interest in debating you you can’t say things to people’s face that you actually believe but will when you think they aren’t watching be a man stop being a coward you commented on my video saying I was treating a fellow Christian poorly if you affirm official SDA teaching which you must if you’re an Adventist Pastor then you aren’t my brother you aren’t a Christian you do not worship the Triune God which your church calls pagan romanism you guys have your own trith

Theistic Idol that you Worship You Preach a different false gospel Galatians 1 18 not because I said it but because you’re out of line with Christian Orthodoxy and this is precisely the problem you guys think we are apostate Protestants who are following after the Beast we are fall in Babylon but when somebody says the same thing back to you you want to act offended like Keith did pce give up the shtick stop with the fake piety and humility then in response to his paragraph about the debate proposition and the video of mine that he watched if you can’t see the trouble this proposes

For your system then this only furthers the point that there’s no point in discussing with you when I said I was done commenting to you last time I meant it I won’t be responding to your comments you can’t even address the primary Point neither could Keith because it foils your whole Theory you want to get hung up on whether or not the temple in heaven is physical and literal as if that’s even the point then you wanted to appeal to Greek grammar and syntax when that isn’t the point of my channel I’m not a Greek Garian neither are you I don’t put up a front

Like I’m something I’m not I’ve stated this time and time again I don’t try and pretend to be something I’m not you don’t even need to have Greek and Hebrew degrees to understand the point that’s being made as long as you aren’t a slave to adventism it’s easily refuted this is precisely why I started the channel it doesn’t take theological doctrines to refute your guys’ novel 19th century theology you either ignorantly or purposely ignore the fact that the author tells us as long as the first apartment is still standing there’s no way for us to enter into the presence of

God referring to Hebrews 9 but since there now is a way to enter into the presence of God by the blood of Jesus Hebrews 10 that has to mean the first apartment isn’t standing anymore which means Jesus wasn’t in there for 1813 years he couldn’t have been because Hebrews wasn’t written in 1844 you guys clearly struggle with following the logic of your statements Keith demonstrated this as well seeing as he wanted to argue the physical literalness of the temple in heaven which isn’t the objection you wanted to argue in the comments that you already knew my

Position Edwin LOL now you want to learn it when I told you that you’ve only heard me on the negative not the affirmative you wanted to pin the arguments I was making in the debate on to me as my position he was essentially missing what an internal versus an external critique is you have demonstrated repeatedly that you are what you accuse others of and this is hypocrisy but since hypocrisy isn’t one of the Ten Commandments I guess you guys don’t care about that right bit of a tongue-and-cheek comment there and then with regard to his comment about the

Roman Catholic who wasted his precious time again I don’t care what you think Edwin you’re a clown show I’ve listen to your content you repeat the same stuff all Adventists have been saying for 150 plus years it doesn’t matter what is said you guys will just continue parting the pioneers and using your proof text method of hermeneutics you complain about the last debate and you aren’t even aware that Keith was in the wrong not me you didn’t even see what was agreed upon you all rallied around your boy in the Facebook group when he called me a pig and said I didn’t follow the

Rules Keith is a liar I have the receipts and we’ll be showing all of them when I do my debate recap video we agreed upon 15minute openings 30 minute cross exam 15 minutes each 5 minute closings and Q&A is that what happened Edwin no it isn’t Keith did what he proposed the morning of the debate and Marlin said no that isn’t how debate works you aren’t giving a 15-minute monologue after the openings Keith then agreed and said that he was down for the format I just proposed again Keith is a liar you bought into it and then proceeded to slander me in your Facebook

Group Keith didn’t even know how a debate worked and was asking questions the morning of the debate Marlin had to explain to him why he would want a cross-examination get out of here with your ever so pervasive holier than thou Adventist attitude yeah I was a little upset when mid debate the debate opponent begins doing what was said to not be done yeah I got a little heed when the work of my Lord is demeaned and some of it is attributed to Satan apologizing for getting a little heated is not manipulation it’s called self-awareness it’s called humility something you

Apparently lack maybe before you comment on things you know nothing about you should use the biblical standard of hearing both sides of a situation before arriving at the conclusion you aren’t the only one whose time is precious you aren’t the only one whose time is valuable you aren’t the only one that prepares thoroughly for things you aren’t the only one with kids and family yet again the run-of-the-mill fake Adventist piety I have zero interest in wasting time debating you anymore for the second time instead I’ll be addressing both yours and Keith’s

Comments in your Facebook group of which I have the receipts by the way alongside the receipts of the discussion between Marlin Keith and I and people will see that some Adventist pastors are not above reproach they are gossips frauds and Liars that when you think the public eye isn’t watching you guys say what you really think not going to work Edwin been there done that got the T-shirt if you continue to cause the distraction on my YouTube channel I’ll block you plenty of people have already messaged me loving the content questioning adventism

None of them had a problem understanding the objections being raised like you there’s nothing you can do to stop us God is raising up people to utterly destroy this cult that’s dragging millions of people to hell you can keep your p a liess to Jesus who is exalted to be made equal with the father prior to the creation of the Earth in Idol and a false Christ your weak beggar Jesus who can’t seem to get what he wants and is trying his best to convince people to pick him we will continue worshiping and serving the biblical and historical Christ who is a reigning conquering King

Whose kingdom is ever expanded in who is able to save all of those that are his as he draws in the fullness of the elect and there’s nothing you can do to stop him you can pull though that’s not very Christlike card like you guys typically do and that just further shows that we’re not talking about the same Christ Heretics in church history did not get respect Heretics who demean the Lord Jesus as being elevated to be equal with the father denying Orthodox trinitarianism got put in their place people like you that run around with Aryan Heretics you know who they are are

Not worshiping the same God my prayer is going to be that God takes the blinders off of your eyes as well as millions of other sdas that you repent of your damnable heresies see the errors of adventism and come to a knowledge of the truth there are many elect caught up in adventism by God’s grace we’re going to pray to be used by the Holy Spirit as a means of sounding the alarm and showing them the actual gospel and the true Christ as they are LED out of this false movement into the goodness of the once forall gospel passed down by the apostles to the Saints so after seeing

How cowardly this man was by lying about me publicly numerous times and seeing his attitude I realized we don’t have time for all this debates take months of preparation to be worth everyone’s time including the audience and I cannot stand the fake smug Pious attitude that again not all not all not all but some Adventists possess it is rude it’s toned deaf and I can see right through it instead of just cordially setting up the debate sending his proposed specific topic and keeping things cordial he had to insert ERT all sorts of extra unnecessary Jabs nope you lost me I was

Nothing but cordial with this guy in this email thread I was concise willing to debate Etc he chose to take it the route that it went and for that I wrote him a scathing response that you just saw dusting my feet off I said I was no longer interested in debating because of his rude pretentious attitude not because I was or am afraid of him and this shouldn’t be all that shocking in the real world if someone is cordially setting something up with you and you respond like he did you shouldn’t be that surprised if the person has a change of heart this was going to be my

Last words to this man dusting off my feet and moving along but he then responded with this hello again miles I expected another emotional Outburst from you the irony was saying in the same email that I’m the one doing the whining I also had a feeling you’d cancel the debate you invited me to have if I’m so easily caught in my lies and hypocrisy a debate with me should be smooth sailing for you but as usual critics always start something they can’t finish same thing with LC CMB and the rest nothing but angry formers with an agenda who think themselves ready to stand in judgment

With that attitude and conduct name calling doesn’t bother me bud here use the one Elsie uses schizophrenic ellan nutcase clown oh you used that last one already you may also reference my mother too while you’re at it one of your followers did that in your video comments didn’t see you put him in his place though and you’re mad at me for what Keith said in my group uh completely ignoring the fact that he was engaging with the post on there I was not engaging with a comment attacking his mother or whatever but he continues give me a break talk about hypocrisy how

About you put that in your videos too I’m sure you realize now that people can say what they want and it’s not our duty to be their character police nor that we’re responsible for them tell that to your spies in my group matter of fact come on in it’s not exclusive critics are always welcomed it’s in the description but go ahead and block me that’s also very typical I see no benefit and spending time arguing with you here and trying in vain to correct every misconception you’ve made about me and what we teach you can’t even decipher between when an Adventist says

Apostate protestantism and just protestantism they consider themselves Protestants miles so obviously they’re not throwing the baby out with the bathwater they’re talking about apostates not Protestants in general and it’s always in the context of the enforcement of the future Mark when they decide to enforce decrees contrary to God’s law he’s completely ignoring the fact that by the way when I was bringing that up I was referring to me being an apost Protestant because yes their organization would label me as an apostate Protestant so again another

Example of not being able to hear and follow what’s actually being said but he continues you critics are always doing stuff like this misapplying and thinking you’re exposing Us by your videos I’ll be doing my own video responses I too have receipts so do what you must miles this is your time fulfill your threats I’ve grown callous to name calling and threats these 14 years doing this ministry you’re a newbie my friend nothing new Under the Sun here yeah and don’t tell me not to pull out any cards I do what I want miles your conduct and behavior do speak of someone unconverted

And it’s your own words that will stand trial Matthew 12: 36-37 but I say unto you that Every Idle Word that man speak they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment for by thy words Thou shalt be justified and by thy words Thou shalt be condemned you won’t be standing in front of me in the Judgment this is between you and God what you will say when he asks why you felt the need to call me a clown is your business not mine you will have to bow to his rebukes when the moment arrives because it was foretold your own words would condemn you you knew better but didn’t care

About you better repent before it’s too late call that manipulation if you’d like it’s impossible that offense not come but woe unto him through whom they come Luke 17:1 so I’m not surprised I’m doing only as the Lord said to do to judge them by their fruits hey if I’m mistaken on Doctrine the Lord can reveal it to me as I continue to study the word but it is absolutely clear what will happen to those who offend their fellow man especially while claiming to be Christ Representatives miles here isn’t an ounce of worry in me I’m not moved or threatened by you critics especially you

Energized newbies on the Block you’re not the first nor will be the last critic as for your theory on the first apartment along with the same old within the veil arguments your arguments regarding the scapegoat with that atrocious barabus comparison you made I’ll deal with that in my own articles on my own videos and at my own time next time don’t invite me to debate and then bail out because you don’t like my attitude even worldlings can’t take a person like that seriously Edwin notice again the posturing of being threatened more of the SDA pathology I talked about

The SDA ideology being destroyed which is sending people to hell not the people but Edwin Associated that with him being personally attacked but once he realized that he should have just been cordial in setting up the debate he tried the last ditch Hail Mary provocation approach provoked me to debate by saying if I’m so caught in lies and hypocrisy than waxing me in a debate should be a piece of cake right buddy yeah that isn’t why I said I wasn’t debating him it was his rude condescending attitude that he clearly dug his heels on even further when I was genuinely trying to set up a

Debate nevertheless I didn’t respond fast forward to August 5th 2023 almost a year later and he emails us again hello miles Chris Tucker asked me to watch one of your videos and said you wanted to discuss it publicly if that’s the case I’m interested in a moderated debate in order to be fair to to both of us let me know your availability within the next few weeks thanks the video he referenced was this one Edwin to which I responded and this is the message that we have copied and pasted to numerous people who have commented on our platform you can

Go reference it with this and see if this is only a small snippet or if it’s been manipulated I right hi Edwin I don’t know what you in Christ that should say Chris discussed what I do know is on December 12 2022 I sent you an email that included the following after seeing how much of a coward you are when you think people aren’t watching I have zero interest in debating you you can’t say things to people’s face that you actually believe but will when you think they aren’t watching be a man stop being a coward to which part of your reply included next

Time don’t invite me to debate and then bail out because you don’t like my attitude I’m not sure why you think this has changed you also claimed that I couldn’t be trusted to be a respectful interloc and your precious time was too valuable but then when answering adventism starts to grow you demanded in the comments that I debate you now here you are again you’re more than welcome to show up to an open stream to discuss the Sabbath simply because I won’t bar you but outside of that I have zero interest in debating you the irony of your reply is that you initially didn’t

Want to debate me because of my attitude with Keith emotional can’t be trusted to be a respectful interlocutor Etc so you have known that this was my reasoning for almost a year now yet you continue to run your mouth to your Echo chamber trying to make it seem like I’m afraid to debate you as if it isn’t on principle having told you nine months ago why you’re pretentious disingenuous rude Etc no one is scared of you my man but I get it it makes you feel good to your base that calls you so do your thing you have lied about me publicly numerous times of which I have the

Receipts you have openly stated that you want to see not just my ideology destroyed but me personally when you’ve made it clear that your purpose and Mission is one rooted in hate seeing people destroyed Etc the decision to dust my feet off from you almost a year ago has proven to be the right decision we are praying for you all and Happy Lord’s day it was an excellent time of Covenant renewal today feasting on Christ his benefits and his word hopefully one day you’ll become a Christian and join us that’s the prayer anyway so he reached out again to debate

And I let him know that Chris Tucker does not speak for me I don’t know what their discussion entailed but I do know that the previous email thread still exists and I meant what I said which is why I reminded him of such Edwin knows that he has been lying and why I told him I will no longer interact with him especially in debate I initiated a cordial dialogue unaware of his disposition he proceeded to be disrespectful and rude despite my rather chill messages to him but instead of owning this and moving along like we have answering adventism lives rentree

In his head and he can’t stop talking about me so he lies and tells people that I’m a afraid of him now right before that last email response a guy by the name of Jay Huffman commented on one of Edwin’s posts in the Advent Defense League Facebook group I showed this some months ago during one of our open mics this individual was posting about us like crazy and commented on a post by Edwin kado telling him about our August 3rd 2023 open mic and told him to show up that was actually the open mic that we looked at this comment on to which Edwin only said I’m aware of him already

This individual responds by asking how do you propose we answer him General kado to which Edwin says what by refuting and destroying him and his arguments on an equal and public platform not just my beliefs but me personally not destroy my arguments and hopes that I come to know what they believe to be the truth but publicly destroy me personally and this man claims to be a pastor well he didn’t choose to show up which means according to his own standard that must mean that he’s scared right because instead said he emailed me 3 days after the open mic

On August 6th which you just saw followed by doing their own open mics and demanding that I show up and engage them claiming I’m scared if I don’t folks they even have a chat Channel within their Facebook group dedicated to answering Yours Truly now this is only a glimpse into what we anticipate coming in the future not just from this individual but from actual serious Advent of scholarship because yes folks there are Advent of Scholars and leaders that we do actually respect and have sought out meaningful engagement with an Endeavor that we will continue pursuing

And hopefully one day bring to fruition but I do not respect the guys over at the ADL and now you see why I’ve been very patient over here while these individuals have continued to publicly lie about me and our platform which circles us back to the larger Point like with canite this tactic is not new or unique to answering adventism understand this is a pathology that is rooted to the spirit behind 7th day adventism one side openly states that they want to see me destroyed not just my beliefs but me personally while our side has openly stated multiple times that we want to

See Adventists find life including Edwin Cado distinguishing the people from the ideology we will only be doing responses like this when it’s necessary that the truth be out there as more and more people seek to tarnish our organization but our eyes are focused and fixed on getting Christians caught up to speed and more and more laborers into the gospel field to reach Adventist with the truth and continuing to labor alongside our members who equip us to reach as many Adventist as possible with the truth and it’s working so to the gentleman at the ADL if you choose to

Keep lying about this so be it that’s your prerogative but understand you violate the ninth commandment every time that you do especially now I will not be engaging in your guys’ silly online Antics and games it is time to grow up and move along now the record is public and available for anyone to see who is and isn’t lying the only satisfaction that you will receive is believing the lie that you continue to tell yourselves your listeners but it doesn’t change the facts to those in our audience let’s pray for these guys they are not the enemy pray that the true God would be

Merciful to them giving them eyes to see and ears to hear and that their misplaced Zeal would be put to use for the labor of the true Christ and his gospel wouldn’t that be something all wait till later apostate did he say that come on man