An SDA Pastor’s PATHETIC Response to Answering Adventism (REACTION)

What’s up y’all? I’m back today with another reaction video. This time from an Adventist pastor who runs the YouTube channel Kenhorst SDA Church who put out a response video titled The Reason former Adventist answering Adventism is constantly attacking the SDA church, which no, theological critique is not attacking. If that’s the case, the SDA church is the biggest attacker of Christianity in the world. But nevertheless, let’s hear his hypothesis. Okay. I mean, he points out three different reasons for leaving the Adventist church. And I will say these

Three reasons are among the strongest ones, the reasons why I am a Seven Day Adventist. Um, Ellen White, h interpreting the Bible through the lens of Ellen White. I I think that’s a strange view. Uh, let me hear it again because you said that 7 interpret the Bible through the lens of Ellen White. Um, I don’t think so, buddy. I don’t know where you get that from. Uh, your own organization’s primary source documents. One of the regular sources we site around here, the June 3rd, 1971 Review and Herald, long after the 1919 Bible Conference. Folks, Protestants have always claimed that the

Bible is its own interpreter. Perhaps it is better to say the spirit of prophecy. We use the term here as synonymously with the gift of prophecy or testimony of Jesus is its own interpreter. The Bible is an infallible guide, but it needs to be infallibly interpreted to avoid confusion and division. And again, the official statement of confidence in the writings of LG White, which is literally on the SDA church’s own website for anyone to access. This is put out by the GC, folks. We reaffirm our conviction that her writings are divinely inspired, truly Christc

Centered, and Bible-based. Rather than replacing the Bible, they uplift the normative character of scripture and correct inaccurate interpretations of it derived from tradition, human reason, personal experience, and modern culture. And yet again, GI Butler, former General Conference president, folks, what did he say? Our position on the testimonies is like the keystone to the arch. Take that out and there’s no logical stopping place till all the special truths of the message are gone. Our enemies and the master they serve realize this. But some

Of our people are so blind that they do not. So I guess this SDA pastor fits the bill for one that is so blinded he can’t see the fact that without Ellen White, Adventism collapses. So yes, I’m sorry you aren’t aware of this, James. I’m glad that I could help you out, but this isn’t some hidden or secret thing. I didn’t make this up like so many SDAs try and postulate. Ellen White is the interpretive guide to scripture in Adventism. And it’s why around here you will see us use a picture of her with the papal tiara photoshopped on her head to make the point because we have done

Multi-hour presentations on this exact subject numerous times showing far more than just those three citations. I really wish people like this would do more homework than watching a single 7-inute video and then do this sort of wild wild west approach of of gunslinging a response. The video he’s responding to was literally the first video I ever made. It was before the answering Adventism website was put together and this channel was even up and running fully. It was a simple like icebreaker video to kick things off that almost functioned like a testimonial

Video. It was short, simple, to the point, simply telling people that may have come across the channel why I left Adventism. I figured that would be a common thing people would be asking from the get-go. And I get it. This video, for some reason, YouTube has picked it up and still promotes it like crazy. So, he probably chose that because of that, but he clearly hasn’t bothered to look into anything exhaustive that this platform has put out. anyone that’s been writing with us for any length of time just heard him say that and knew exactly the sources that we were going to be

Looking at. So yet again, we have an Adventist pastor who is unaware of these things. But yes, James, this is a strange view. Like you mentioned, which is why it’s in part why I left the SDA church. Yet you said the reasons I gave for leaving are why you are an Adventist. [clears throat] You sound confused, my friend. And this is the problem. You get Adventists who will b and scoff at what I say, yet they themselves aren’t even keyed in on the primary source documents. They think their own personal opinions and beliefs are the standard for the organization

When they aren’t. This platform is about the SDA organization, not your own personal beliefs, your own personal opinion. Shoot, if that were the case, this organization would look schizophrenic because we’d be all over the place because Adventists are all over the place. But no, he hasn’t brushed up on the SDA system of theology as a whole to see how foundational this is Ellen White to the entire SDA framework. Uh because one of the reasons why this claim is not true because Ellen White did not invent or write or wrote a single doctrine for the Adventist church.

Uh where was that claimed again? Had [clears throat] this gentleman bothered to even do a cursory investigation into answering Adventism, he would have seen this on our website. On an article titled, “Who was Ellen G. White?” I write, “She did not originate any doctrines of the Adventist Church, but functioned as the movement’s prophetist who served as the stamp of approval from God when it came to the correct interpretations of scripture.” And yes, as you can see, stamp of approval is hyperl and will take you right to the source that this is being pulled from. I never claimed in

That video or in any of the hours and hours of content that we’ve put out that Ellen White originated any SDA doctrine. This is you just assuming things. I’m on record both on here and on numerous other podcasts that I’ve been invited to speak on stating exactly what’s in that article clarifying for people unfamiliar with Adventism that she didn’t originate any SDA doctrines but functioned as the conduit messenger and stamp of approval from God. Do not use these arguments, please, when engaging with Roman Catholics. It will set up any seasoned Roman

Catholic apologist to jump off the top rope and flying elbow that level of apologetic through the ring and bury it. Adventist, when you say this, Roman Catholics immediately are going to dismiss anything else that you have to say because they’re going to know you didn’t even bother to learn what they actually believe. It would be the equivalent of when someone says Ellen White originated all of SDA teaching. Adventists will immediately just dismiss anything else someone has to say because they know she didn’t originate any of the teaching but supposedly received

Vision confirming the beliefs that they say were arrived at through deep biblical study. That’s the belief and claim. Hence why I said the reason is she is the interpretive authority not the doctrinal originator. So if Ellen White did not write any of them where did they come from? Well, the pioneers of the church studied the pioneers of the church had already they were coming from different denominations with biblical knowledge on many basic things. You can say there were other pillars of the advent teachings that were added such as the Sabbath, the sanctuary, state of the

Dead, spirit of prophecy, and so on. But they’re not in contradiction to scripture because these things can be clearly defended from the word of God without the use of Ellen White. This is not to say I don’t believe in spirit of prophecy. I do believe and I preach and teach and encourage people to read the book the spirit of prophecy. Yeah, you can arrive at all these things from the Bible alone except GI Butler just told us that if you remove Ellen, all the special truths of Adventism go with it. Again, James, had you bothered to even do a cintillaa of digging, you

Would have seen, I already know everything you just said. You’re simply paring all the same talking points that SDAs do. It’s so tiring. It’s exhausting. It’s hard to take seriously. These are things I already know. None of what you said refutes that Ellen White is the infallible interpreter in Adventist theology proper. We looked at sources that clearly you’re unaware of, yet you said that’s not what’s taught. Okay. In the article I just showed, I note exactly what you just said. I literally hyperlink to the exact quote you’re referring to. The pioneers would

Be studying and come to a crossroads and Ellen would then supposedly be given a vision and be shown the correct interpretation. And yes, she did give the stamp of approval on false interpretations. You claimed that everything she gave the stamp of approval on can be defended from scripture. Adventists love saying this. And what they mean by this is that they can point to a proof text and then assert, see, it’s biblical, which only begs the question, you assume Ellen White’s interpretation is correct, but don’t demonstrate it. No, you can’t demonstrate from scripture that Jesus

Was inaugurated to be a high priest at his ascension because that contradicts the Bible. Jesus was inaugurated as a high priest at his baptism when the anointing of the Holy Spirit, the true oil, was poured out on him and the blessings spoken over him by his father. He gave up his high priestly prayer in John 17 as a high priest. The law required that the day of atonement sacrifice be offered up by who? The high priest. Jesus functioned as both the high priest and the offering at Calvary. This doesn’t even get into all the blunders regarding the the daily

Ministration of the priests where she claimed that during the daily ministration on behalf of penitent Israelites, the priest would sacrifice the animal brought by the Israelite, then take the blood and transfer the sins in type into the sanctuary and sprinkle the blood before the veil for the sins of the people uh to rest in the sanctuary or the sins of the penitent individual to rest into the sanctuary. until the day of atonement. No, this is false. According to Leviticus 4, the priest during the daily administration only took the blood into the sanctuary

And sprinkled it before the veil on two occasions. When the priest sinned and when the entire congregation of the Israelite community sinned unintentionally. Never for individual penitent Israelites. And this causes your guys’ entire typology to break down. And that’s not even scratching the surface. She claimed to be shown in vision that the holy kiss that Paul signed off with in the epistles was to be a normative ordinance for the Christian church that the antichrist had caused to fall away. It was a work of antichrist. She claimed that the holy kiss wasn’t being

Practiced as a normative ordinance for the church and needed restored along with footwashing. Yet later in the youth’s instructor and the review and herald, two official SDA publications, they admit that there’s no evidence that the holy kiss was to be normatively practiced, but was simply a cultural custom, which means that they essentially call themselves Antichrist. I could go on and on and on like we have on our website in other videos. Her stamp of approval from God contradicts the scriptures constantly. Well, if you don’t want to read them, you don’t want

To read them, fine. You can read the Bible. The Bible is more than enough. But if you’re looking for a magnifying glass, you want to go deeper in your understanding of scripture, I will encourage you to read the spirit of prophecy because it does magnify the Bible. So, so that first argument here is kind of it’s kind of weak and I’m not necessarily understanding what were some of the reasons why uh because of that having been born in the church. He says I don’t know how you came to this conclusion as an individual. Uh, I came to that conclusion based on the primary

Source documentation of the organization like we just saw and have looked at in depth in multi-hour breakdowns and walkthroughs that you’re clearly not aware of. But he said the Bible is enough. Yet, as we saw earlier, the sources you are apparently ignorant of, we can’t understand the Bible without Ellen White’s interpretive guidance. Without that, we will supposedly be left in division and confusion according to your organization’s official source documents. This is supposed to be the hallmark of you guys being the remnant. That unlike all those Babylonian

Protestants out there that are all doctrinally confused, Adventism is a bastion of unity. We have no doctrinal division. We’ve got the God particle, the theory, the theory of everything according to Herb Douglas. In fact, apparently this SDA pastor isn’t even aware of the Adventist Believe Fundamental Beliefs book, which utilizes Uriah Smith’s analogy for Ellen White in the Bible, which is found in the Review and Herald, which we’ve looked at before. Notice one illustration may help to set this matter in a still clearer light. Suppose we are about to start

Upon a voyage. The owner of the vessel gives us a book of directions telling us that it contains instructions sufficient for our whole journey. and that if we will heed them, we shall reach in safety our port of destination. Setting sail, we open our book to learn its contents. We find that its author lays down general principles to govern us in our voyage and instructs us as far as practicable touching the various contingencies that may arise till the end. But he also tells us that latter part of our journey will be especially peril that the features of the coast are

Ever changing by reason of quicksands and tempest. But for this part of the journey he says I have provided you a pilot who will meet you and give you such directions as the surrounding circumstances and dangers [clears throat] may require. And to him you must give heed. With these directions, we roach the perilous times specified, and the pilot, according to promise, appears. But some of the crew, as he offers his services, rise up against him. We have the original book of directions, say they, and that is enough for us. We stand upon that and

That alone. We want nothing of you. Who now heed that original book of directions? those who reject the pilot aka Ellen White or those who receive him as that book instructs them. Judge ye. So no, we can’t just read the Bible according to the SDA church. We need your prophetus. Otherwise, we’ll be left in confusion and not be able to understand the Bible properly. And this doesn’t even get into the mountain of statements from Ellen herself that we’ve looked at I don’t even know how many times in detail where she claims that her writings are underappreciated and

Underread which leaves people susceptible to deception. That if you reject her writings you insult the spirit of God. You will eventually reject the Bible outright and end up in predition and countless other claims. No, her writings are not just a magnifying glass that you can and cannot utilize if you so choose. Either this guy is severely ignorant or he is lying. All he’s demonstrated thus far is that I was correct in the video that he’s responding to and he hasn’t done his homework on the organization that he is a salesman for. For me is like I wasn’t raised in it. So

I’ve I’ve come in and able to appreciate it. I’ve also noticed something there’s a pattern that I’ve noticed um among people who were once Adventist who leaves the faith and now speaking against the Adventist church. often time they were raised in the advent faith. So most people were raised in the Adventist faith either didn’t take it seriously, they didn’t practice what they were taught or they were live they’re either in a home who knows what was going on in that home, what was the condition of the home, right? So they turn out to be the worst enemies of the Adventist faith.

Often time it’s not an advent issue. Sometime it is something spiritual. Sometime it is there is some type emotional uh instability. There’s something going on in the life but often time these things you don’t see. I think there’s something else going on behind some of these arguments. It’s not really an Adventist thing from my perspective and I’m I’m of course I’m speculating of course but I can pick up on behind that. There’s a lot of things being said here that are not true. Yeah, you are most circul certainly speculating. Um because what you’re

Saying is just it’s like hard to even take serious folks. It just after you’ve heard this five million times. I left Adventism over a decade ago. I’ve heard this I don’t know how many times. It just it doesn’t deal with anything. We just looked at primary source documents. He comes back saying, “I’ve never heard this.” Uh you know what I find with a lot of these former avenists it’s all emotional reasons. Gotcha. No, we got the classic. It’s because of the SDA home they were raised in. Folks, I I tell you guys this all the time. This is one of their favorite

Lowbrow, lowhanging fruit arguments. The sort of idea that former Adventists had an abusive upbringing regarding Adventism. Ellen White shoved down their throat. It’s like, not only is this silly, but it doesn’t deal with the substance of what’s presented. It’s like, okay, now that you got that out of your system because you just had to viscerally respond with that, let’s deal with uh the substance of what was actually presented. How’s about that? This is a sideeshow argument because they are ignorant of the facts like we just saw and it makes them feel better.

Nothing about my upbringing was abusive. I’ve talked about this a number of times as well. I was raised in like a super basic milktoast SDA household. Probably no different than a lot of other kids outside of Adventism, aside from, you know, the unique components of going to church on Saturday and and those sorts of things. But most Adventists, or maybe I shouldn’t say most, but a good number of Adventists would condemn my SDA pastor dad to predition because he’s one of these evangelical hybridized SDAs that’s inconsistent with the SDA system as a whole. And I don’t say that to

Disparrage him, but just to say I didn’t grow up in an oppressive SDA household. Besides, my personal upbringing has zero bearing on objective truth. I care about the truth, not my own personal experience. Or, well, my family is this, so that’s irrelevant to facts. I mean, Mormons could say that same thing. All these arguments SDAs use, it’s like you can always port this over to like, well, Jehovah’s Witnesses must be true because, oh man, there’s smart people that are that are Jehovah’s Witnesses. Um, there’s people that have left and speak out against Jehovah’s Witnesses

Because they were raised in it and came to find out it was a deception. Oh, no, they’re just hater. It’s like all this stuff could literally be ported over to like any other false sect out there. Adventists use this argument because they can’t actually engage with what’s presented. So they speculate and bring up things that are entirely irrelevant. He said, “Oftent times it’s not an Adventist issue.” Yeah, James, you evidence you are just speaking off the cuff, making a response that does nothing to engage with answering Adventism. Our website and content

Present hundreds hundreds of highbrow theological arguments. Nothing about personal feelings or upbringing. Again, had you even bothered to do 10 minutes of digging into the platform, you would have seen this. You are literally responding to a video that gives three simple reasons that are theological for why I left. And instead, you claim it was because of emotions. This silly claim doesn’t hold water for anyone who’s done even a cursory level of investigation into the material that I’ve presented. And this video wasn’t even all of the reasons. Again, it was a

Simple icebreaker video for the YouTube channel. Not exhaustive, not overly in-depth, just a simple introduction for people to me. Maybe instead of assuming that those of us that were raised and educated in the SDA church are just crybab who got caught in our feelings, you should consider that we’ve actually done a more in-depth understanding of uh or or a more in-depth deep dive on the understanding of the SDA system as a whole, and we studied our way out of it. Crazy I know but just a thought. So there is something he calls Adventist faith believe in a different Jesus.

Is that what he said? Let me play that. Glee. However, the Jesus of Advent. So I do not say this with glee. However, the Jesus of Adventism is a different Jesus than the historic biblical Christ. I only hear that from Adventist critics because having been in the Adventist faith for such a long time uh over well it’s only been I’ll say 14 years now I’ve been in Adventist schools um hung out with Adventist pastors read the books um taught teach and preach on the pulp at aventist churches I have never heard such a thing like I only hear it from people online I don’t know how they

Came to that conclusion his argument is that um they have any stretch belief in classic uh uh tri theism. I I didn’t even know what that was. So, um well, maybe that’s why you’re confused, dude. All you appeal to is personal anecdotes. And so, because you haven’t heard it or you’ve only had this, that means there this is such like lowbrow level engagement, James. We have hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of content on this specific subject because it’s one of the central things that’s wrong with Adventism, not some tertiary issue. I could bring up all sorts of

Issues, folks, that I don’t bring up because they’re not foundational. It doesn’t put Adventism outside of orthodoxy. And when I do critique something that I believe is not in line with scripture, but it’s a secondary issue, I clarify that. But that’s why you’re confused and it sounds like a personal problem. I know lots of people outside of the SDA church that recognize the Adventist Jesus is a false Christ. Many of them engage with our content and have been on this platform. There’s entire books written by people who were never SDAs that did a deep dive study on

This and came to the same conclusions. But furthermore, how is that relevant to the point? The core issue with Adventism is the great controversy worldview which defines all of Adventist thought and theology including christologology. This is part of why answering Adventism exists. I get it. This guy couldn’t be bothered to do any sort of homework. But part of why we exist is to help Christians better understand the theological dangers of Adventism by helping piece together here’s what they mean by these terms. Because again, I’m always talking about you have to scale

The language barrier. Adventists use all of the same language as Christians, but they mean entirely different things. It’s like he’s appealing to I’ve been around other Adventist pastors and well, no duh, dude. You’re not going to hear it from them. Like, obviously. It’s like you don’t even know how I came to that conclusion because you’re not familiar with the primary source documents. It’s like, are you really trying to act like the great controversy theme doesn’t inform all of Adventist thought and theology? Again, we’ve looked at the sources on that. Herbert

Douglas Ministry magazine, December 2000. Go look it up. But in that system, the Adventist Jesus was exalted to be made equal with God the Father prior to the creation of the earth. That’s damnable heresy. was only a man on earth who set his divine nature aside that he received through exaltation and was only a man on earth which is called the kosis heresy. He ceased to exist for 3 days in the tomb. He doubted his resurrection and if his sacrifice would be accepted because Satan was able to twist his mind causing him to doubt which is a sin because doubt is unbelief and unbelief

Is a sin. It would mean that Jesus didn’t have perfect faith, which gets into something else I’ve talked about I don’t know how many times. You have to have Jesus’s perfect passive and active obedience to be able to be seen as righteous. If Jesus didn’t have perfect unwavering faith, you can’t have Jesus’s perfect passive obedience imputed to you. This is a serious blundering issue. Yet when you bring it up, Adventists are like, “Well, it says on the cross that uh why did the father forsake him?” That doesn’t say that Jesus doubted his resurrection or if his sacrifice would

Be accepted. This is again bringing Ellen White to the text, citing a proof text, and then because you can cite a proof text, well, see, it’s biblical. No. And that doesn’t even get into the countless other christoologgical heresies that you would have been aware of had you even bothered to do a fraction of digging. And yeah, it makes perfect sense that those who have left Adventism would be better informed on SDA theology and recognize the false Jesus of Adventism than those outside who never had a great controversy worldview, don’t understand

The way that the language is being used, and focus on other areas of expertise. The reason this guy is confused and doesn’t understand my reasons for leaving Adventism is because sadly he’s deceived. He isn’t even aware of these primary sources that we’ve shown on this subject in large quantities. Anyone that’s been writing with us for the past year is more informed on primary SDA source documentation than this guy who’s an Adventist pastor. And it’s also interesting that he says he only hears this from former Adventist and that he’s an outsider that wasn’t raised in the

Movement, yet he’s just paritting all the same tired assertions, talking points, and objections that any former Adventist has heard a million times. Like, dude, do you not think I’ve heard all this? It just That’s why I’m saying it’s hard to even take this seriously. It’s like for the 10 millionth time, we get to hear the same stuff pared back to us. Yeah, we’ve heard all this. We’ve heard all this. It shows you haven’t done as much research into this as you think you have. It’s like I really wish folks would these these folks would stop to think that maybe just maybe we’ve

Heard all this before. I heard all this my whole life. Long before I even left Adventism, long before you made this video. Long before I started answering Adventism. It’s like we’re former adventists, man. We know all of this stuff. That’s why I call it the script. And what was the other thing? The atonement continues. Well, that’s it’s not a new argument. Like to say that the atonement continues after the cross. That makes you that makes you believe in a different Christ. It’s kind of like I mean if you study the sanctuary it’s only common sense that there is there is a

Progression to salvation also. Um so there is the justification sanctification and glorification. So there is something that Jesus is doing in heaven. He’s our heavenly high priest. He is interceding on our behalf. We can come boldly to the throne of grace that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in times of need. He has entered by his own blood into the holies of holies to minister for the children of God. So if you’re hearing a lot of noise up there is because the children are home and they’re having a lot of fun. So that’s just what it is. I never

Said it was a new argument. I said it was a part of why I left Adventism. But no, it isn’t common sense if you study the sanctuary. It’s hilarious to me that SDAs will say this. Yet, no one until the 19th century due to multiple failed prophecies arrived at this conclusion. It’s just it’s just common sense. Yeah. No one before them had common sense. This is why I’m always saying you need to understand, folks, like the implicit statements that Adventists make without even realizing it. You’re basically saying everyone was dumb until we came along. We’re here to correct everyone.

It’s just common sense. Yet, we know that no one before us understood this or saw this, but it’s a present truth message that we’re here to uh to to share with you. Yeah, give me a break. It’s just common sense, but it took a fringe group of of fanatics in the 19th century to see it. And God was supposedly using deceptive means to lead them to understanding it. It’s common sense. Yet, they didn’t they don’t even believe the same thing about it um in the 21st century that they did in the 19th century. It’s common sense, but it’s a special present truth message

That only Adventists have. A small sect that makes up less than 1% of the global population, but is supposedly God’s true people arbitrarily starting in the 19th century because, well, they up and deemed everyone else to be apostate. But yes, James, it is a part of why you guys have a false Christ. Because when you use the word atonement as we’ve looked in salvation contours of Adventist otiology which is put out by your church’s own scholars supposed to be this new staple work on Adventist otiology you guys mean investigative judgment when you use atonement. So you

Have a Jesus who is still uh dealing with sin, standing wearing Levitical priesthood garments, functioning like a Levitical priest in a building in heaven that is at war with one of his creatures and is working on vindicating the character of God, but is getting absolutely obliterated in the great controversy. Satan is totally rocking his world and on and on and on. This is evidence, folks, that many SDAs live in a shoe box of a universe. Because it’s only by living in that isolated reality that you could say what he said and not see how out of touch it is. No, the

Sanctuary doctrine isn’t simply the idea that there’s a progression of salvation. This is the classic Adventist juke of boiling things down to vague generalities and then bing and scoffing as if it’s those who take issue with the convoluted idea who are in the wrong. 95% of Adventists can’t even explain the seven steps of the sanctuary to you. Just ask them. Next time you encounter an Adventist, say, “Hey, can you explain the seven steps through the sanctuary to me?” Something Ellen White said, “If you don’t understand, you won’t have the faith necessary to be saved.” And then

Watch them short circuit before your eyes. Watch. 95% of Adventists can’t even explain it to you. Notice he said, “There’s something Jesus is doing in heaven. He’s our great high priest. So that automatically means the SDA view of the sanctuary is true. I I mean, what a joke. This is insight into how SDA’s assume that they’re the only ones that think Jesus is a high priest and everyone else thinks he’s twiddling his thumbs in in heaven. No, James. The point is Jesus isn’t dealing with sin anymore. That’s not what his work of mediation entails. You

Guys don’t understand that he is a prophet, priest, and king. All of which is simultaneous. This is another area where your prophetist contradicted the Bible. She claims that he’ll cease being a high priest in the future. This is in the ear in early writings. She saw this in vision, the vision where she saw him get up off the throne and move from the holy place into the most holy place. He’s going to take off his priestly garments at at a point in the future. He will assume the role of a king at that point and cease being a high priest despite Hebrews 7 a plain thus sayaeth the Lord

Which is citing from the Old Testament which foretold that Jesus Christ would be a priest forever forever. And it’s by virtue of what does the author say in Hebrews 7? His indestructible life. You guys don’t teach this. You guys have an entirely different system going on there. But see, you’re not getting into any of these finer specifics. You’re doing like SDA scholarship does. You’re using general Christian terms and then saying, “Well, how could people take umbrage with this?” Well, yeah, you’re not even getting into any of the specifics. And it shows you guys don’t

Understand the priestly role of Christ as well as you think you do. Yet, you think it’s Christians that are ignorant on this subject. Now, I’m not going to get into all of that as our website and other videos have exhaustively done this. So, for the sake of brevity, you can go check that out. We have an entire playlist dedicated to the Adventist Jesus. But I think this clearly shows why he is confused regarding my reasoning. And Adventist nine times out of 10 don’t actually know what other people believe. They didn’t resurrect the idea of Jesus being a high priest.

That’s just what it is. Um anyway, so that’s not even a good argument either. So I’ve addressed this with what’s his name? Jim Babber. He seems like a lot of former former Adventists are among the worst enemies of the Adventist faith. And that’s very common. That’s very normal, right? Jim Bab isn’t a former Adventist James. He talks about this all the time. He I mean, seriously. But yeah, no duh, dude. Former Adventists care about Adventists and want them to know the truth and not be deceived and end up in predition. I I I don’t understand why SDAs are so

Surprised by this. Yet, they’re a part of a movement that is obsessed with pointing out the errors of everyone else and seeking to warn them to come join the remnant or they’re going to be damned. Yet, when you turn that around and say the same thing back to them, they play victim, act like you’re a hater, etc. I I said it before and I’ll say it again. If it wasn’t for inconsistent standards, many Adventists would have none. So the third one, the Sabbath is the seal of God. He argued that the Sabbath is not the seal of God and that uh central to their entire movement is

Their belief that the seventh day Sabbath is the seal of God and that yeah actually it is is the seal of the living God. I did explain it because you go to church on Sabbath or you even keep the Sabbath doesn’t automatically gives you the seal because there needs to be relationship with Christ as well. But I’ve explained it a little bit deeper in my study of the seal of God. I think is study number seven uh oh number six where I spoke about how the Sabbath is the seal of God and how you need to carefully study uh the commandments of God and the idea of the law of God

Written in our hearts the name of God in our foreheads in connection to the seal and the signs and the glory of God and so on. When you make all the connections, you connect all the dots, you’ll come to the conclusion that the seven-day Sabbath is the seal of God. And in the seventh day Sabbath or the three elements that compose a seal, we have the name, title, and territory, which God created the heavens and the earth and the sea. So there’s no other commandments that have these very serious and good elements to establish God’s authority and power over his

Creative work. So again, we get the it’s just obvious. you just you have to study more carefully. Ah, so no one else was studying carefully until the SDAs came along. Again, another one of these unspoken implicit claims that they’re making. But once again, I I nowhere claimed that just because you go to church on Saturday means you automatically have this alleged seal. Again, had you even bothered to listen more before doing this response, you would have heard that we’ve looked at Ellen White’s claim that many SDAs won’t receive this alleged seal. But notice Testimonies for the

Church Volume 5, a few pages of before where we looked earlier. Quote, “Jesus is the only true pattern. Everyone must now search the Bible for himself upon his knees before God with the humble teachable heart of a child if he would know what the Lord requires of him.” However high any minister may have stood in the favor of God, if he neglects to follow out the light given him to God if he refuses to be taught as a little child, he will go into darkness and satanic delusions and will lead others in the same path. Not one of us will ever receive the seal of God while our

Characters have one spot or stain on them. It is left with us to remedy the defects in our characters to cleanse the soul temple of every defilement. then the latter rain will fall upon us as the early rain fell upon the disciples on the day of Pentecost. Close quote. So the SDA church teaches model man theology that Jesus was the great example that you’re to look to for a pattern and you’re to perfectly model that to be rewarded with eternal life. So, she’s talking in this chapter about SDAs and says that many SDAs who keep the Sabbath won’t even be given the seal

Of God because they didn’t actually walk out the perfect obedience modeled by Jesus and get their characters completely free from any defects, aka sin. And it’s only when enough Adventists get to this point that the latter reign will fall, which they believe is a period right before the time of trouble and the close of probation. [laughter] I’m aware of all of this. I know, James. How is that relevant to my point? It isn’t. You agreed. You guys teach the Sabbath is the seal of God. No, it isn’t. And no amount of mental gymnastics, inference, assumption, and

Hopscotch exesus will change this. You literally just pared all the same talking points the SDA church has been making for 170 years, my guy. It’s like you’re even paring the three elements of a seal, like the presidential seal argument. You’re just paring RF Katrrol, Joseph Bates. You’re just paritting these people, which is an anacronistic reading of the text back into it something from the modern day. Which is funny because Adventists will tell you they’re all about a plain thus sayeth the Lord. Yet nothing in scripture plainly says a seal has three parts. And

So therefore, the fourth commandment is the seal of God’s law. Yeah, that’s a fact. Uh is the Holy Spirit the seal of God? No, he’s not the seal of God, but he is definitely the agent that God uses to apply the seal. He writes the law in the heart. Uh the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Godhead. You can say he does the sealing, but he himself is not the seal. Oh, he isn’t. Notice this plain thus sayeth the Lord, folks. No anacronistic analogies like the presidential seal. just plain language. In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been

Predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. in him. You also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it to the praise of his glory. Sealed with James. Do you know what with means? It means the Holy Spirit is the seal. Ephesians 4:30 says he also does the ceiling. It is a both

And, not an eitheror. And if you think this is obscure and can’t be easily understood, then you have zero business claiming anything in the Bible can be. This is so remedial and simple that even a newly born, you know, newly born again believer who’s on milk can understand this. And this is the proof that you guys are committed to your tradition, not the truth. Because this is as plain as the nose on your face. Yet you guys will say the Holy Spirit isn’t the seal and that we need to do all sorts of crazy hopscotching all over the Bible to try and make the fourth commandment the

Seal of God because your guys’s entire system depends on it. And you just proved my point in the video. Ironically, this is why I left Adventism. You guys make the clear passages obscure and think the obscure passages are crystal clear. It is an entirely backward hermeneutic. Once a person hears the word of truth, the gospel of their salvation, and believes on the Lord Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit uses that and moves upon a person, regenerates them, and seals them unto the day of redemption. The Holy Spirit is a down payment from God of the inheritance that one has in Christ. It’s

Like the earnest money on a house. It guarantees from God that people will acquire what God has promised in full. This is very simple. Yet, because Adventism does not understand the gospel, you guys obscure this glorious truth. So, thank you for proving my reason for leaving Adventism to be sound. Um, the Sabbath is the seal. It has to be something that is stamped on the character and that happens to be the change of heart that happens as a result of living a life in accordance with the will of God by grace through faith. So that’s not anything that’s strange.

No. See, you guys don’t understand the new birth. The new birth is a change in one’s being and nature, not just character modification. We’ve gone over this, I don’t know how many times. You can try and change your character and be a moral and upstanding person all day long and never see the kingdom of God. But because you guys don’t understand the true nature of man, [snorts] that man is born dead in sins and trespasses, like Paul goes on to say in literally the next chapter, Ephesians 2, and needs to be made alive by being united to Christ and their spirit being raised to

Life. You guys are essentially preaching a version of moral therapeutic deism. It’s also interesting that you talk about the law of God being written on the heart, but you guys always ignore Jeremiah and the author of Hebrews literal next point that when this happens, God remembers a person’s sins no more. That’s part of the promise of the new covenant, which again entirely destroys the sanctuary doctrine that you told us earlier is just obvious in scripture. God doesn’t remember our sins anymore because he writes the law upon our hearts. We leave off that uh that

That that part about the sins not being remembered anymore cuz well they’re stored on record in heaven to be investigated. [snorts] So he ended the video by saying well he started the video by saying the same thing. So you could really boil it down to one answer really. I left the Seventh Day Adventist Church because I became a Christian. And I asked the question, well you were never a Christian to begin with. If you had to leave the seven adventist church to become a Christian, well, there was something wrong with that Christianity. Because is the seven adventist church

Responsible for your Christian condition? In part, yeah. But largely, if you have a Bible in hands and you have some knees, you can bow down and you have a desire to obey the Lord. It doesn’t matter what denomination you in, you can have a relationship with Jesus Christ. But the doctrine does matter. Um don’t get me gonna don’t get it twisted because the doctrine does point you to Christ. It does point you to the truth and that’s very significant. So there are a lot of people who are not adventists who are Christians, you know. So there are a lot of people who

Who are in the Adventist faith at all Christians and I don’t think you have to leave the denomination in order for you to become a Christian. I mean you can become a Christian uh regardless of where you are. So being part of a denomination has a lot to do with the truth that is being preached in that denomination and the fellowship that you have with the people of God and the mission of the church. And if a person doesn’t feel like the Adventist church teaching aligns more with their belief system, I think you should leave and go find somewhere where you feel like you

Can better fit. James, you missed the point, unfortunately. And I wish you I wish it would have clicked, but let me break it down for you. Very simple. When I said I left the SDA church because I became a Christian, I meant that the 7th Day Adventist Church isn’t Christian. Seventh Day Adventism is not Christian. That’s why this platform exists. Not that I wasn’t a genuine Adventist. And no, once again, we got more of the personal beliefs being passed off as official SDA teaching. Like, do these people even look into who they’re responding to or criticizing? No. Yet

They’ll Adventists will come at me that watch this channel. They’ll come at me from this channel telling me I don’t do a comprehensive enough dig. I’m not exhaustive enough. I don’t understand Adventism. Yet then they’ll go comment on videos like this and be like, “Yeah, you really showed him.” It’s just so pathetic, man. So pathetic. No, you can’t be in any denomination according to the SDA. According to official SDA teaching, I’m supposedly an apostate Babylonian and God’s wrath is kindled toward me. You guys are the remnant, the apple of God’s eyes.

Supposedly, all of us are doctrinally confused and intermingled with Roman Catholicism. Allegedly, it’s like he mentioned the mission of the SDA church. James, the entire mission of the SDA church is to preach your guys’ novel gospel that you claim is in Revelation 14. That’s not actually there. But part of that claim is that it entails calling people out of their current denominations to join you all, the remnant. And after hearing this, a person is now responsible to join you guys or they’ll be damned. We’ve looked at this numerous times, folks. It’s

Literally on the SDA church’s website. Like again, for the sake of brevity, you can go check that out in the other videos. I I I mean, it’s just it like I don’t even know what to say. It’s like either this guy is lying or he’s ignorant. No other options. But this also goes back to reason two in the video. No, Adventism has a false Christ and a false gospel. James, the Jesus of Adventism is not real. Just like the Mormon Jesus, Jehovah’s Witness Jesus, the Unity Jesus, Muslim Jesus, and countless other false Christs that are not real. 2 Corinthians 11, Matthew 24,

Etc. Make it clear there are false Christs in the world. Some Adventists have this very watered down idea. Well, because we use the term Jesus. That doesn’t mean anything. Who are you talking about? It doesn’t work that way. You can’t just use the name Jesus and say, “Well, we have the correct Jesus cuz well, we believe in Jesus.” No. It’s like many of them also tend to think that since they know every sign and symbol of the Bible and what it what they represent, that’ll save them. I’ll be good to go because I have this special insight that no one else has

Because, you know, we’re the only ones that really understand prophecy. That’s another one of these areas that supposedly it was all just a closed book and and and no one really knew anything about end times or esquetology, you know, before the SDA church came along because that’s part of their mission is they think God raised them up as this prophetic voice at the end of time to really show people what’s going on in the end of time. Yet at the same time, they believe in a false Christ that’s not real and a gospel that can’t save because it’s a false cursed gospel

According to Galatians 1. But thinking you know about the T horns and what they represent in Daniel. Yeah, that that’s apparently more important. It’s like this is just further reinforcing why I left Adventism. You can believe in a false god that cannot save you on your way to hell pounding your chest with your Bible because you know that the Pope is the Antichrist. My goodness, man. It’s like Paul says anyone preaching a false gospel is under a curse from God. Again, a plain thus sayeth the Lord. Not esqueological prophecy that has to, you know, utilize

A bunch of interpretation of symbols and signs and numbers. No, plain didactic passages. Crystal clear. He actually twice cursed because he actually repeats himself again immediately after saying it. Anyone preaching a false gospel is cursed by God. No, it’s not okay to remain in an organization that is preaching a false gospel and is under a curse from God. No, Adventism is not Christian. It is a counterfeit. That’s part of why this platform exists, not to attack the SDA church. No, it’s to reach people who are deceived, who are marching toward predition, thinking

Everything’s okay. It’s a big kumbaya around the fire. Again, I grew up in Adventism. This was not happening. It takes guts to do this. You think this has made me a bunch of friends? You think it’s enjoyable to to every day be told I’m a tool of Satan and all these sorts of things SDA say and I’m just doing this because I’m just trying to attack the SDA church. No, I like Adventist. I literally care about Adventists. That’s why I’m doing this. And sometimes you need tough love. And you included, sir, you’re supposed to be an Adventist pastor. You’re going

To have a harsher judgment. and you’re marching toward predition, not even aware of these sources, clearly evidencing you haven’t even researched this stuff. Adventism is an inverted mess of theology, folks. It It is one of Satan’s craftiest deceptions that is splitting hell wide open. It has people totally lulled to sleep, dead in their sins and trespasses with a spirit that’s not resurrected because they don’t think that that needs to happen. But man, they know the Pope’s the Antichrist and they have all this special insight into prophecy in the future. Yeah, that’s not

Going to matter when when um he did make an argument also about the idea that we believe in the mark of the beast on Sunday will be the mark [music] of the beast. Those jokes never hates for me. Anyway, let’s keep going. Paul plainly says in Ephesians 1:13, yeah, actually uh the enforcement of Sunday will be the mark of the beast. Now, you can say it is the beast mark now, but it’s not enforced. Nobody can receive that. Not until it becomes law. [music] And the Bible does say in actually in Revelation 13, if I can open the Bible for this one. So, uh

Revelation 13 verse 8. Uh let’s go to down to verse 15 might be a good one. Yeah, verse 15. [music] And he had power to give life to the image of the beast that the image of the beast should both speak and cause. So the he that he’s talking about here is the beast of revelation. Verse 11, which is the lambike beast, which is the United States of America. Two horns like a lamb. Um Protestantism [music] and uh and republicanism. So you have a church without a king and a church uh a nation without a church without a pope and a nation without a king. So and there’s no crowns as well

Establishing the fact we live in a constitutional republic. So there are different reasons why you can easily debunk this. And also in my study of the rise of the lamblike beast which is the United States I went in extreme length breaking it down and I will leave a link in the description below to the mark of the beast series so you can check it out yourself. So he had power to give light to the image of the beast that the image of the beast was speaking cause. Look at this the word cause here when you study what that actually means. If I can open

A trunk concordance um it has something to do with enforcing or making or legislate something. Um this is kind of where the idea came from. [music] So here it is right there. Strong concordance. Let me see if you can see this on my screen. I don’t want to be labeled a point here. So, the word cause here, bend together, cause, commit, content, continue. I hope I’m getting the right stuff because there’s a lot of little numbers here. Anyway, um it’s like folks, I’m yawning because it’s just like again, James, we’ve heard all these assertions 5 million times.

You’re just asserting this. Did you notice that Ephesians 1:13 literally pops up on the screen that says the Holy Spirit is the seal? He just completely ignores it. And here he is doing these wild inferences from Revelation that, well, they have the stamp of approval from God on the interpretation, so it’s talking about America and the Pope. And oh, but the Holy Spirit isn’t the seal, though. No, no, no. The the Bible doesn’t say that. James, all you did was make all the standard SDA assertion talking points. the lamblike beast is the United States

Of America. And it’s like, “No, dude. This is your guys’s interpretation.” And Ellen White supposedly gave the stamp of approval, so you think it’s correct, but no. The text does not say this. You guys think that’s what’s being talked about, but literally nothing you showed, nothing that you showed said that the mark of the beast will be a national turned international Sunday law forcing the entire world to worship on Sunday. Nothing. Nothing. This is pathetic. This is pathetic. Don’t tell me that this is deep Bible study and you literally went to a concordance and read

A word. So now you’re gonna utilize Miller’s uh interpretive principles. It’s just like wow. Wow. I I know all these assertions, James. It’s why I keep saying I really wish you guys would do more than just parrot out all the standard talking points, but you can’t because that’s all Adventism has a script. I already know the script, bud. I’m a former Adventist. I I’ve heard everything you’ve said so far, every single proof text five million times. It’s like appealing to Strong’s concordance is not how Greek works. Like now you’re a Greek grimarian because you

Can whip out a concordance. No. No. This again is just William Miller’s method of interpretation that SDAs have adopted and borrowed and then utilized thinking that they’re these biblical wizards when it’s like no dude. That’s that’s not how the Greek works. That is not how this works, my friend. Yeah, that’s that’s correct. Anyway, it it is it goes with the idea of legislating a particular law. And when you actually study in Daniel chapter 7, there was a law that was changed in God’s law, which is the 7th day Sabbath. [music] Um, and the seven adventist church has a mission

To repair the breach that has been done to the law of God. So again, going back to uh this man, no, the Sabbath was not changed by the Pope again for the 10 millionth time. We’ve already addressed this I don’t know how many times when Adventists point to statements where Rome claims to have done this. Rome is not saying the Pope changed the Sabbath. Adventists cite these statements like the Catholic mere having no clue what they’re even citing from. They’ll say, “See, they even admit it.” And then they read into it. They’re admitting the Pope changed the Sabbath.

No, these are all postreformation statements. And by church, they mean the apostles because they believe the apostles were the first Roman Catholics. All Christians, all Christians recognize the first day of corporate worship is apostolic in origin. The argument is how does one connect back to the apostles to then have basis for such a practice which is why all of the statements that Adventists point to are said in the context of apostolic succession or sometimes they’re in response to the reformed doctrine. So the reformed branch of the reformation,

The reformed doctrine of the regulative principle of worship, which I uphold, which states that worship should only include that which is clearly prescribed in scripture. Rome then responds to this by saying, “Well, Sunday isn’t explicitly prescribed, so therefore you have no basis for that.” To which the reformed respond by saying, “No, just like the Westminster confession says, we’re not saying something has to be verbatim stated, but some things are taught in scripture by good and necessary deduction.” To which numerous exogetical arguments are then given to

Show this for the first day. The point being it has nothing to do with the pope changing God’s law like the SDA church erently asserts because again Ellen White said it was shown it in vision according to the book early writings and that apparently means that God said so too. James we’ve responded to John Lomckang who used the exact same language that you just did the repairing of the breach of the Sabbath making mince meat out of first kings 18 to do so. Please go and listen more my friend. Please, please. It is so exhausting listening to these same silly claims

Like over and over and over thinking that this is some incredible reputation again of all the videos you choose. You pick like the most milktoast basic ice breaker video. He’s not really saying anything new that I haven’t already heard. Uh these are the same old argument and the argument that Romans chapter he made reference to Romans chapter 13 chapter 14 uh verse 5 in reference to the Sabbath. Romans 14:5 is not about [music] the Sabbath. That is that is a massive misconception. He say such a thing if going to church on Saturday was the seal of God. They

Believe he wasn’t talking about which day to go to church. He was talking about uh stronger brethren and weaker brethren, fasting days and feasting days because of eating habits that they were dealing with. So they had to put certain days in place to assist them with changing certain things that they were dealing with when it comes to food. It had nothing to do with the Sabbath. As a matter of fact, the book of Romans makes zero mention of the day Sabbath, the seventh day Sabbath. You can type Sabbath. You will not find it anywhere in the book of Romans. Um so Romans

Chapter 14 has nothing to do with the seventh day Sabbath. So, I don’t know how he made that application. That is a massive leap here. Theological leap. It doesn’t have to be this way. [music] Anyway, um my the irony that I mean, I’m not saying anything new that he hasn’t heard yet. You’re utilizing a short icebreaker video and none of my actual exogetical articles or videos where I make in-depth arguments. I guarantee you. I guarantee you. This guy doesn’t even know my position on the Sabbath. I guarantee it. I guarantee this man does not know my position on

The law of God. Guarantee it. Guarantee it. This is why the SDA church is going to be in trouble, folks. We’ve talked about this with Jud Lake and Christopher Cernaki. I I mean yet again it just they make the assumption that all former Adventists are the same. They make all the same arguments when we don’t. And lots of former SDAs have been redpilled on my arguments. Well, they’re now former SDAs have been redpilled on my arguments for the first day Sabbath and have told me I’d never even heard this before and it blew my mind. Right, James? I didn’t

Cite Romans 14 for the reason that you assumed. Remember what the point was, folks. That the Sabbath is the seal of God. Not is the Sabbath still binding. Not is the Sabbath perpetual or not. He’s heard all my arguments before, but he doesn’t even understand that I’m a sabotarian. Again, this was a short icebreaker video, not an exogetical one. And I cited Romans 14 to simply say that if Paul believed the Sabbath was the seal of God, why would he make statements like in Romans 14, which could easily be misconstrued? He should have clarified. He should have

Gone to great lengths to make sure people knew that the seventh day Sabbath is the seal. That was the point which you even played back and I clearly said I don’t know what else to tell you. A former Adventist is attacking an Adventist. Nothing new under the sun. Did he make any argument that I think was solid? Not really. Some of the same things he said or the same things I’ve heard a lot of people say. Um but a person can choose to do whatever they want. And I from my examination of the man, if I were to look at the man right and critically ex just look at the

Attitude and the approach, the style, there there is something spiritually wrong here. There is some type of spiritual brokenness going on. So a lot of what you are hearing or seeing in the videos that you’re watching um that is solely dedicated to go after the Adventist church that that is the result of some level of brokenness in the life. So don’t let this face fool you. This is a face of a man who is in a very bad place spiritually. This is a person in need of desperate prayer. Um I don’t think debating this man is good for him. You will only strengthen his conviction.

You pray for him and you do what Jesus also told us, right? Uh leave them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind and the both shall fall into the ditch. And this is why Jesus taught to not judge based on appearances, folks. Something Adventists constantly violate. No, James, that’s the face of a man who had a newborn and was just learning about lighting techniques and had very little sleep. Hence why the video was also very simple. So, you want to talk about the teachings of Jesus? My goodness, man. Learn to not judge based on appearances, Adventists.

Gosh, it’s like their favorite thing to do is judge people based on appearances. Apparently, Adventists have this special spiritual gift that no one else has where they can read people’s hearts. But this is exactly it, folks. people like this that that will claim I have a spiritual issue and a spiritual problem when they’re actually spiritually dead because they don’t even understand the new birth, but they can aduce from a six-inute video that I’m spiritually broken and I have something wrong with me. [laughter] No, it’s like when the facts are I’m

Actually on fire for the Lord Jesus Christ. I do or have in the past done all sorts of other evangelistic efforts uh to all sorts of people. I’m not just an apologist to Seventh Day Adventists. I love the truth. I care about Adventists and I want to warn them about the deception of Adventism. Hence why I get very passionate about this because when you know the truth and you can see that people are deceived and they’re walking toward the fire, it’s not the person that gets worked up saying there’s a fire. Yo, there’s a fire. It’s not that person who’s spiritually dead

Or spiritually broken or attacking, etc. It’s that person who actually cares about people. Furthermore, I’m a member in a local church under qualified pastors and elders with accountability. Anyone that knows me personally, many of whom watch this channel and are not SDAs, never have been, they heard this guy, they also laughed because they know this isn’t true. I’m not always like this 247, but man, they can aduce all this from a six-inute video. Don’t even engage them. Don’t even engage. You know, he’s got that soft piano music playing in the background.

Again, Adventists, heed Jesus’s words and stop judging based on appearances. You hypocrites. You claim to be staunch commandmentkeepers that obey God better than anyone else, yet you don’t even follow Jesus’s most basic commands. It’s like, James, you know nothing about me, sir. Nothing. And in sheer irony, we pray for you. You’re supposed to be a pastor. You’re going to have a stricter judgment. You’re blind leading the blind, not me. I’m sounding the alarm. I’m not a teacher. I’m not a leader. I’m not a pastor. I’m sharing information. Again, had you

Done any amount of digging into this platform, why it was started? This is all public information. I’m here sharing information to get people caught up to speed. I’m not a I’m not a pastor. I’m not qualified for that. I’ve had people ask me before, “Why haven’t you gone to seminary? You seem like you’d be good at preaching.” I’m not qualified. I terror I The thought of that sends terror down my spine. There’s going to be a harsher judgment. You’re the blind leading the blind, not me. I’m a Christian that felt called and equipped to reach Adventists with the

Truth, which is exactly what’s happening. And we praise God for it. And there’s not a single thing that you guys can do to stop it. You claim I didn’t present anything new. You’ve heard it all. Yet, as we saw, you apparently haven’t because you didn’t even know the multiple sources that state Ellen White is the infallible interpreter. And that says it all really. But this silly don’t engage with people like this. We’ve heard it all before. Stickick. No, it’s not going to work. I mean, by all means, keep doing that. But anyone that actually listens like you

Should have done. They’re going to see how silly this response was and how you didn’t even bother to do an iod of research before making this video. I’ve watched a decent amount of you, sir, which is why I know your name. I’ve heard your sermons, etc. I don’t just pop off on a video um you know, responding to a person after watching six minutes. I do lots of listening and research on the people that I respond to. You know, Adventists came at me, you shouldn’t call Doug Bachelor a liar. Yeah. And I’ll give account for that. But I didn’t just pop off the cuff and

Make that claim. I’ve listened to hundreds of hours of that guy in in particular for years and years and years. So when I said about specific things, very specific claims that he made, I know that he is lying. I’m not just assuming. I’m not just inferring. I knew that he was lying. Not saying he’s being malicious, but the point being, you need to do some better research, bud. You need to do a lot better research than this. But like I said, by all means, keep this defense up. We’re going to keep doing what we’re doing and watch God move in a mighty way and watch

Thousands and thousands of Adventists come to know the truth. Hopefully eventually millions. Holy apostate. Did he say that? Come on, man.