Adam & Eve Were Giants? Unpacking 5 of Adventism’s Tall Tales

Hey there so I got a question for you what are some of the craziest additions to scripture that you’ve ever heard whether it be from Mormons Muslims anyone really well today we’re going to look at what I think are five of the wildest Adventist ones we actually have a term for these around here what we refer to as adventism adventism are details that are not found in the Bible But ultimately come from LG white often times Adventists will sub consciously believe many of them because they are often times incorporated into the Adventist meta narrative they will think

That they are biblical but in fact they are not and yes I know Adventists are going to tell us that these are not additions to the Bible they’re just details that are not found in the Bible that inform stuff found in the Bible coming from God through their prophets while you try and make heads or Tales of that logic adventism number one so I remember here this one as a kid and having a picture in my mind of giant Adam and Eve that more closely resembled something from Jack and the beanock over and against anything found in the Bible I also remember them appealing to

Genesis 6 to try and support this that there were giants in the earth in those days and that was supposed to prove that Adam was twice as tall as modern man but as expected this is coming from Ellen White who in spiritual gifts volume 3 writes that Adam was more than twice as tall as men now living upon the Earth and was well proportioned and while it doesn’t really change anything think theologically it is insight into the picture that gets painted with an adventism that then Paints the imagination of sdas when thinking about these subjects but what’s actually

Fascinating about this is that Ellen White was not the first one to put this forth and based on her track record she had very little issue taking from and being influenced by others because something similar is said in the Muslim Hadith specifically sahi bukhar book 55 where Abu hararia who was a companion of Muhammad writes that Muhammad said Allah created Adam making him 60 cubits tall which is roughly 90 ft so sticking in the Garden of Eden we also have the claim that the serpent was a burnished gold color and had wings I remember being told part of the

Serpent’s curse to crawl in its belly was evidence that it lost its wings and legs which is to say God apparently created snakes to fly I also recall being told things like scientists have even discovered vestigial components in snake anatomy where Wings would have been attached which apparently supports this wild Theory the other claim being that it’s referring to some extinct creature like the pterodactyl but once again it’s ultimately based on Ellen White who was supposedly shown by God that the serpent was then one of the wisest and most beautiful creatures on

The earth it had wings and while flying through the air presented an appearance of dazzling brightness having the color and brilliancy of burnished gold obviously scripture does not say this and there’s no reason to think such is true this is another instance of Ellen White clearly being prejudiced by others as there have been a slew of commentators prior to her existence that all theorized about stuff like this due to some of the Hebrew language indicating that the serpent could posture itself erect but unlike these commentators we always come back to that

Pesky fact that Ellen White claim to be shown this from God making it an infallible fact not merely a theory or hypothesis this one comes from the SDA Church’s pre-earth origin story where they claim to have all sorts of special VIP access and knowledge about heaven that no one else does in this case the claim is that Lucifer prior to being banished from Heaven was apparently having a midlife likee crisis where he was reflecting on his past present and future actions an angel then passed by him who he stopped and asked if he could have an interview with Jesus which was

Granted to him at this interview Lucifer then supposedly repented and wished to be back in the favor of God meaning he would keep the ten commands but then Jesus wept at this action and said that this wasn’t possible because the seeds of rebellion had already been sown in heaven and Lucifer couldn’t be trusted it apparently wasn’t true repentance which Ellen goes on to claim that when Satan became fully convinced that there was no possibility of his being reinstated into the favor of God he manifested his malice with increased hatred and fiery vehemo but of course

Scripture knows nothing of this entire pre-earth origin story let alone an interview between Jesus and Satan where Satan repented as an Adventist I often had pictures in my mind and the idea that I had all sorts of special Insight that others didn’t that helped me make better sense of reality when ultimately I simply adopted a fantasy that was presented as the

Truth now this is something I’ve heard countless former Adventists discussing and they say they have a recollection of being taught this but can’t quite pinpoint where sure enough the culprit is Ellen White not the Bible in life sketches of LG white she claimed to be shown in vision from God that she saw the 144,000 entering a cloud together and were 7 Days ascending to the sea of glass when Jesus brought the crowns and with his own right hand placed them on our heads this was also During the period when she claimed and believed that that generation was the 144,000

I’ve even heard some Adventists appeal to this Vision to try and support Ellen White’s claim that no one will pass through the Pearly Gates of Heaven without bearing the signant mark of God’s government the seventh day Sabbath they say that this 7-day trip will include everyone stopping along the way to keep the Sabbath so even those who never observed it while they lived will observe it at least once before entering Heaven no I’m not kidding now the SDA Church’s attempt to prove this from the Bible can actually be seen in Uriah Smith’s Daniel and Revelation commentary

Which is a staple in the movement where he claims that in Revelation 81 it says that after the seventh seal there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour they then claimed that the length of this period of Silence if we consider it to be prophetic time would be about 7 days since there is silence in heaven during this period and they connect it with the second coming they say the angels are coming with Jesus and then conclude that since it will take seven days for them to arrive it will take seven to return these are the sorts of Hoops that they will jump through to

Try and support these extra details that let’s be honest are not in scripture but that does not stop them from attempting isog gymnastics to try and make it work now we’ve looked at this a number of times before but not necessarily the influence behind it central to the great controversy worldview is the idea that Jesus incarnated to silence accusations about God and the Ten Commandments Ellen White writes that Christ left his position in the Heavenly courts and came to this earth to live the life of human beings this sacrifice he made in order

To show that Satan’s charge against God is false that it is possible for man to obey the laws of God’s Kingdom now unlike the other adventism this one actually does drastically impact theology because nowhere does scriptures say that Jesus incarnated to silence Satan the Incarnation was not an afterthought yet Ellen White presents it as such by saying that a Heavenly council meeting was held by God the father in Jesus to figure out a solution to man’s fall where Jesus then proposed a plan to Incarnate silent Satan’s accusations and vindicate God’s

Character for anyone out there familiar with Mormon theology you’re probably thinking oh wow that sounds a lot like Mormonism if that’s you you’re correct in an article regarding Satan’s Rebellion on the Mormon movement’s website Mark Matthew speaks of the Mormon belief regarding the premortal council supposedly held in heaven he writes that the simplest way to view Satan’s plan is as a plan of rebellion and Disobedience to God in contrast God summarized his plan in these words and he will prove them herewith to see if they will do all things whatsoever the

Lord their God shall command them Abraham 3:25 in addition we believe that through the atonement of Christ all mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel Article of Faith 13 thus God’s plan is a plan of obedience and righteousness while Satan’s plan is one of Disobedience and Rebellion this is to say that Mormons also teach like adanus do the same thing regarding probation this is also to say that in the Mormon pre-earth origin story which well predates adventism by the way they claimed that Satan proposed a plan and

Jesus proposed a plan Jesus’s plan was accepted by the Father and Jesus was then brought into a Heavenly council meeting that Satan was not this made Satan jealous and he began to rebel by exalting his plan over and against God’s plan God’s plan for man being that Jesus would incarnate die on the cross and that through obedience to the law and the ordinances of the Gospel which they means something very specific man can be brought back into the favor of God and while it’s not all a direct one to one the direct parallels are numerous you have Satan rebelling against God’s

Eternal Commandments making accusations against God Jesus being the one that will silence those accusations by enacting the plan that he presented to the father because he was brought into Council meetings that Lucifer was not which made him jealous all of this coming from extra biblical sources that speak of a premortal existence this is to say that Ellen White’s mind was clearly prejudiced by other individuals which by her own standard disqualifies her for the work that she said she was raised up by God to do because she claimed that if her mind was ever

Prejudiced by others and it was then she wasn’t qualified for the task of being the Lord’s messenger it’s also a shining example of why we need to heed Paul’s warning to not exceed what is written Mormon Adventist or otherwise which reminds me if you want to see how the great controversy worldview absolutely scrambles the mind make sure to check this

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