Burying Adventism: Soul Sleep & The State of the Dead Refuted | Part 1

Is he running the universe as a man again I cannot answer that so one thing is don’t misquote me I’m not saying that he didn’t run the universe I’m not saying that at all what bro what are you talking about man and so during that time when he was on Earth we understand that the father and the Holy Spirit they were really running the universe they were really running the universe we understand that Jesus growing up had to learn things correct so we understand that at at certain points that you know Jesus was not running the universe Jesus was not

Running the universe Jesus was not running the universe he yielded that um he yielded I guess the keys or the rights to the entire Cosmos to his father do that make sense amen amen amen amen amen amen well hey there thank you for being here especially if this is your first time with us Adventist or otherwise now folks I have mentioned this before but I am forced to reiterate this for both our regulars as well as those that might be new here answering adventism is not an e drama platform if you are one of these people in the modern day that lives chronically online

You will know what I am referring to unfortunately that is the type of thing that performs best on YouTube but regardless that isn’t why I started this nor is that what this platform is going to turn into again for those that are new we are an educational platform for the Christian church that is educating Christians on the theological dangers of adventism and there’s a two-fold aspect to that to strengthen up the body of Christ which I so happen to love while at the same time equip that body to be able to reach adventis with the truth now I have said this before and will

Continue to say it there are smart Adventist Scholars out there folks they’re not all stupid but getting these people to engage is not as simple as snapping one’s fingers the point being we like to interact with primary authoritative Source documentation from the organ ganization whether it be their Publications Pioneers pastors and Scholars but tonight is going to be anomalous tonight we’re going to be interacting with a group that wishes they were a part of that club um they want to act like they are thinking that they are launching theological missiles

With the big boys only they are holding spiritual squirt guns in their own backyards shooting spitballs across the fence tonight was supposed to be an informal debate SL discussion between a Seventh Day Adventist that reached out and had some objections to some things that were said by Sam Shimon the last time that he was with us specifically regarding Jesus being Michael the Archangel this changed when he was apparently contacted by a guy named Edwin Cado who is one of these critics of Christianity that wields one of these spiritual squirt guns he claimed this

Debate was a setup a setup and we’ve done this before apparently referring to these Adventists that have come on to the uh platform here as victims victims yes victims we’ve apparently victimized Adventists who of their own valtion contacted us to come on here nevertheless since the circus is back to their standard ways of lying and making up stories before we get into it I need to connect some dots for you all as to why tonight’s stream is happening when we are so used to listening to more more serious-minded SDA individuals all right so first

Starters in a community post that these guys made after this current stream was scheduled their panties gotten a wad and they wrote out this long dissertation based on a few sentences as you’ll see in the video description of the stream notice they write now miles at answering adventism pretends he’s innocent of seeking us out notice this comment on his so-called upcoming response to the league oh how cool and here’s what I and you’ll see it down in the description Sam Shimon was originally originally slated to be here for a debate with an Adventist that demanded he be engaged

Regarding Michael the Archangel this gentleman backed out at the behest of Edwin Cado from the official quote unquote Advent Defense League claiming that we quote like to get Christians who aren’t very knowledgeable to engage with despite these individuals seeking us out their response note the part that reads despite these individuals seeking us out in other words we seek out less knowledgeable individuals while accusing them of seeking out less knowledgeable individuals folks miles was the first to seek out Edwin for a debate years ago and Edwin merely followed up on that

Original request until miles insisted he won’t do it because Edwin is basically a meanie how ironic coming from a guy who called Edwin an arrogant prick uh yeah except my statement about seeking us out folks was clearly about the individuals that seek out discussions with this platform not me denying to have solicited a debate with Edwin Cado almost two years ago by these individuals I was clearly referring back to the part in quotes that I allegedly like to get Christians which they mean Adventists who aren’t very knowledgeable to come on here so that I can embarrass

Them allegedly that’s the keyword and you all will see why this was in quotes in a moment point being it wasn’t about these guys but then we heard them once again bring up that I wanted to debate Edwin Cado almost two years ago I already addressed this on our Channel where it was demonstrated that their silly lie that I’m scared to do so is exactly that a silly lie but of course as has been the running track record they’re still living in an alternate reality because I didn’t say I was no longer interested in engaging this guy because he’s a meanie no I’m

Not an effeminate but once the I’m scared lie was disproven now they’ve exchanged it for a new one that Edwin’s a meanie so I won’t debate him a poor Edwin trying everything he can to provoke one to action for those that saw the entire email thread which I showed in the video I mentioned where I addressed all of this I said he’s ignored because he’s an arrogant pretentious nauseating jerk who unlike myself doesn’t say things to people’s face AKA he’s a coward which I also told him in the email exchange not that he’s mean and unlike him I actually said what

I needed to directly to him on top of this he publicly stated that he wants to see me personally destroyed not just my beliefs which I also showed the receipts on he doesn’t want me to come and see that you know what they believe to be the truth but he wants to see me destroyed yeah no thanks coward I have zero interest in engaging with people who clearly are filled with hate and I explained this in that video as well I distinguish between individual 7th Day Adventists no matter how much I disagree with them and Seventh Day adventism this guy does

Not we want Adventist to come to know the truth this guy wants to destroy people so he can publicly feel like a big shot and pound his chest ho ho ho yeah come at me bro ho he’s one of these types and if you’re a former Adventist you know exactly the type I’m talking about he has the Adventist Aura why would I bother engaging with someone like that move on crybaby but again this is their typical Mo and at this point I’m convinced isn’t possible for them to be truthful even when the receipts are out there for anyone to see they still lie to their

Gullible listeners because they’re incapable of honesty even when disagreeing with someone but now I’m apparently denying that I sought to debate this guy even though the video explaining why he’s ignored is on the channel and I show the entire conversation from the very beginning where I solicited a debate with him yeah makes total sense but what’s also fascinating about this and I showed this in the video that I just mentioned is that initially notice what Edwin kado said to me when I first reached out to him about debating in part he says quote having

Watched your last two debates it seems to me you won’t be able to act professionally in a debate with me constantly interrupting your opponent in that manner and getting agitated to the point of having to apologize to him will only frustrate me and make me regret agreeing to it among other things like sucking your teeth rolling your eyes and then trying to mask it all by saying it’s just that you’re too passionate ah so Mr kado was initially unsure about debating me because of what my demeanor the same thing that led me to realize this exact thing about him his

Pretentious and hateful attitude was enough to close that door dust my feet off and move along and my you this was also before answering adventism was really up and going and like I stated or rather showed the receipts on I told this gentlemen you’re free to come on to one of our open mics that we have because I’m not going to Bor you simply because I’m not going to gatekeep like that so if you want to engage come along he denied that never wanted to show up and instead they started doing all of their own open mics and now I’m scared because I won’t show up to their goofy

Platform yeah okay but this is another example of the abject hypocrisy with this indiv idual whines and cries about my attitude saying he needs to pray about even doing a debate because his precious time is too valuable then he gets mad when the same thing is said back to him give me a break and now he’s gonna throw a tantrum like a crybaby to try and get what he wants and demands that we engage him holding his silly streams where he summons people to come before him no joke we’re talking about a guy who literally has streams where he demands certain people show up he says they’re

Being summoned before him like he’s a monarch or something give me a break get out of here you goofball no one listens to your silly demands I summon you before me yeah kick rocks you loser pounding his chest like if I don’t show up I’m afraid of him but no no no he’s not pretentious or anything my goodness man never mind back to their Community post I continue secondly yeah Edwin encouraged that young man not to debate miles you have a problem with that Miles he did that because the young man admitted he’s new to adventism and not as knowledgeable but that did not

Detour you from trying to make a public spectacle of him we saw clearly the agenda to embarrass him in the SDA church and took immediate action to stop it no apologies here then they move on to another part of of the description from this video where I said so instead since they fancy themselves as high- hanging fruit we will respond to their arguments in response to claims Sam made regarding what the Bible teaches about the nature of death and the state of the Dead that they allegedly easily refuted let’s find out to which they respond the comment they fancy

Themselves High hanging fruit is merely his opinion Edwin encouraged the young man to back out not because we think we’re any better than him but because we know exactly what miles was trying to do since he’s already done it before miles simply didn’t like a snatching his victim out of his hand well too bad miles but we’ll do it again and again along with more and more responses to your video I’m sorry folks please keep okay please keep in mind that ADL Works in multiple ways to stop the lies of the critics and win souls to the truth and it’s not only through video responses

What we did here is one of those other ways along with giving personal studies to people who have been confused and discouraged by the critics this is a solemn work and it will get done by God’s grace we will be watching and responding to these so-called responses to us if miles unblocks us we can respond in the comment section as well well we will see who has the truth see you there yeah so folks this gentleman wasn’t here to debate me he was here to discuss with Sam as we will see in a moment but apparently I set up lowi information Adventists and I’m on the prow to

Embarrass them because I have an agenda I apparently knew this guy was new to adventism and I was trying to victimize him allegedly key word and these guys knew exactly what I was up to apparently so they felt the need to put their capes on and make sure this didn’t happen save a victim you getting the Gotham City Vibes here for anyone that’s been riding with us for a while you’ll know how ridiculous this silly narrative is the idea that I’m out there looking for low hanging fruit with an agenda to embarrass them folks I’ve issued public debate challenges to Doug Bachelor as

Well as Martin Hannah Jan Pauline uh and any of the scholars because I broadly put this out there any of the scholars at the Adventist biblical Research Institute what’s supposed to be the highest theological body within the organization the difference being I don’t run around and claim they’re scared of me because they haven’t taken me up on the challenge like we’re in sixth grade or something I mean there could be multiple reasons that they don’t want to debate me and that’s fine but I don’t exhibit crazy neurotic obsessive ex-girlfriend syndrome and

Constantly dwell on them and lie about why they won’t engage with me in hopes that it provokes them to do so it’s like guys this bitter and obsessed ex-girlfriend stick from him is really getting old like move on buddy move on so pathetic pitiful and cringe it’s like I’m just being honest it’s just like dude it is cringe it’s kind of creepy honestly move on move along it’s like on the one hand he claims I’m a clueless ill-informed lwh hanging fruit I know nothing about adventism he told me years ago you’re no different than Steve Daly and EJ and Dale ratl and Dez

Ford oh I’m the same as all these other people I’m clueless I know nothing about adventism yet at the same time it’s become his life mission to debate me so he can try and publicly destroy me and feel good about destroying a clueless ill and formed critic oh right the exact thing he claims I Do by looking for lwi information Adventist to embarass anyways that’s where I stand I want to engage with the foremost theologically astute individuals this organization has to offer Edwin Cado does not fit the bill but let’s look at the whole exchange with this gentleman

That was supposed to be here tonight who reached out to us and let’s see how accurate this assessment from the ADL is here’s the very first message and I apologize for it being small I didn’t know a way to get it any bigger and I didn’t want to put it on individual slides and people say you just made that up no these are screenshots from where he contacted us I don’t know this guy from Adam folks he starts off he says Hey miles I’d love to debate Jude 1 19 with you and Sam shimone as well as second Thessalonians 4:16 care to have a discussion on those

Verses Jesus is Michael the Archangel and I saw your video on Jude 1 19 I noticed you never bothered to address the first portion of the verse where Michael was disputing the body of Moses and ignore how the beginning of the verse explains the ending you guys also conflate the Greek words Blasphemous judgment and rebuking in Jude 1:9 when those words have clear differences according to the concordance furthermore when you and Sam addressed 1 Thessalonians 4:16 for some reason you guys set up a STW in SDA position to attack the question is not whether

Angels were uh present at the Resurrection the question is whose voice raises the dead why did you guys not address the SDA position by bringing up John 529 through2 uh 25-29 which tells us the voice of Jesus will raise the dead John 52-29 is a parallel to 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and I’m shocked you guys did not bother to bring it up to which I simply replied with what hi Caesar you’re more than welcome to come on to answering adventism and bring your objections I will get Sam to also come and I will neutrally moderate so it isn’t two onone how soon would you like to come on

You’ll be given equal time and opportunity to speak oh yeah I really had an agenda right and this guy’s supposedly a victim someone who reaches out of their own volition unprompted and is granted his request yeah yet I supposedly sought to take advantage of this guy by saying it shouldn’t be two onone and that I would neutrally moderate to make sure the guy had equal time to speak uninterrupted not be railroaded and bring up his objections to feel heard oh no but these guys knew exactly what was going on though right yeah good one for those that aren’t aware um you

Might be shocked actually to to to hear this some Adventists um they think they’ve been given the spiritual gift of omnition just in case you were wondering but then I circled back around and said I take that as a no because don’t typically schedule stuff on the Fly especially this soon and I needed to get it scheduled and set up ASAP if we were going to do so to which he said and responded sounds good when would be a good time I don’t reply right away because I’m busy I can come on next week how’s that sound just curious though why did you not bring up John 529 25-29 when

Addressing 1 Thessalonians 4:16 since that verse tells us who the voice of the Archangel is I can save that question for the debate if you would like I got plenty of more questions by the way but yeah let me know what time next week you are available I would love to have a discussion with you too that would be great to which I responded by saying what because we were utilizing Doug bachelor’s presentation and engaging with what he brought up he didn’t go into John 5 but don’t worry bring your questions how is about Monday the 8th at 7 pm Central Standard Time as well as

Again circling back on this we got to get it on the content calendar ASAP if we’re going to do it again trying to accommodate this guy because we don’t typically book stuff on the fly like this he then asked that works great how do I hop on the live sorry if I take time to reply I just got off work and have been busy but look forward to talking with you on or talking to you on Monday I then said I’ll send you the link the day of very easy if you can use zoom you’ll be able to use streamyard which is what I use 700 p.m. CST on Monday the 8th if you can hop on about 5

Minutes early to test audio and video that would be great looking forward to it you’ll have a five minute opening before any open back and forth to discuss your objections and challenges walk through scripture Etc Monday at 7M Central Standard Time please be on time yeah real nefarious stuff right which yielded this response that I shared in a community post this past uh past week hey miles I was looking forward to debating you but I have a brother called Edwin and kado and he recommended me not to debate you he told me you like to get Christians who are not very

Knowledgeable to debate rather than debating him or other sdas who know scripture better than me and I admit I do not know the writings of Ellen like you or Edwin do I will study for a couple years since I’m still new to SDA teachings and we’ll get back to you uh then when I have learned more about the teachings and I apologize miles God bless ah so notice this is his first mention of being new to adventism his message that he was bailing out but yeah I apparently knew he was new to adventism and I was trying to make a victim out of him and I had a

Secret agenda to make him look bad yeah and my final response was what Caesar you reached out to us but all right which is clearly why in the description of this video the same claim is in quotations referring to Edwin’s claim that we seek out unqualified people with an agenda no these people seek us out genius they reach out to us of their own valtion and request to come on I’m not out looking for people like this and I’ve tried being courteous and allowing them to come on which will no longer happen and this is why it’s like you try and and accommodate and engage

With well-meaning people and have a good dialogue and then cowards like this use it to stir up drama using it as an opportunity to pound their chest publicly with their cape on claiming all sorts of lies and falsities thinking that they did something Noble it’s like we have tons of Sam’s listeners here tonight Sam has tons of online discussions with people who aren’t very learned and he’s patient with them if they’re sincere but these guys knew there had to be some secret attack plan because that’s the world they operate in so they project that on

To everyone else and since they operate in a world of secret agendas and trying to destroy people everyone else must be also I then said there as you can see at the end then have Edwin kado step in for you since he apparently wants to put his cape on no the only people that had an agenda was these guys who were obsessed with answering adventism and think everything’s about them and as is the running track record they have no clue what they’re talking about folks this is the same crowd mind you that came over into our live chat of the video that necessitated silencing

Their lie that I’m scared of them to which Jason Thomas one of the individuals you’re going to have the unfortunate uh experience of listening to tonight he claimed I quit my job as an Adventist Professor to do answering adventism it’s like they literally just make stuff up about people and begin spreading it and then we get to hear about it from their gullible followers that just pared it like robots this is the same group of people by the way that are trying to buy legitimacy by way of views and subscribers because it’s 2024 and they probably aren’t aware that anyone in in

Marketing knows the tools to be able to look at this information since these guys want to bark like dogs and my background is in marketing notice what a normal growth chart on YouTube looks like this is from a social media Analytics tool I have standard es and flows with a median trajectory upward this is what a natural YouTube platform that’s growing looks like because folks YouTube is not Tik Tok and Instagram especially right now long form content is not in people’s attention spans are like that of a goldfish un unfortunately which is the proof that

Answering adventism isn’t in this for the money and here’s what it looks like when you purchase engagement like these guys do and this is their chart you go from virtually nothing with no EB and flow to a massive Spike like this years of virtually no engagement followed by what’s called statistical anomaly especially for YouTube a massive spike in this short window then the sudden drop off when you stop paying yeah nice try fellas been there done that got the T-shirt deceptively buying engagement to pad your stats then asking people to give you money based on that when the

Numbers are all make believe and since lying is second nature to them of course they’re going to lie and project onto me that I’m lying I made this up Etc but they know they know and now they know that we all know since they’re watching right now yeah you got busted fellas again unserious and inauthentic individuals anyone that reads growth charts for social media knows what this is when they see it I ran this by numerous people in social media friends acquaintances people I know that do social media for a living for various companies just to get their because I

Already knew like I said but I I wanted to just have a giggle so I showed them this chart and I said what does this look like to you every single one of them purchasing engagement and they all and a number of them said especially for YouTube because it doesn’t work that way this a social media management 101 and there’s other metrics you can uh engage to see this as well this is just one of them and for Giggles I tracked their data uh their data log one day for or a couple days for 48 hours and I tracked the bot activity so I’ve got all the receipts so if they want to keep lying

And barking they will be further exposed and we can dribble out more stuff like this because I’m not playing games with these frauds let this be a Proverbs 1813 lesson if one gives an answer before he hears it is folly and shame I actually like the way that the new living translates it I know it’s a paraphrase but it captures the point in English well spouting off before listening to the facts is both shameful and foolish and this is why it is also why they are largely ignored by this platform they are not serious people their theological prowess is abysmal as

We’re about to very clearly see they lie they slander they make stuff up they’re arrogant and pretentious they thrive on drama and they lar online as some official Adventist apologetics organization that demands they be engaged summons people in front of them yeah and they want to be acknowledged because they so desperately want to be taken seriously in their shoe box of a universe tonight is happening because they wanted to put their cape on and make up more stories about why they’re ignored 99% of the time and since Sam was slated to be here anyways we’re going to listen to their

Response to an old video of his on the subject of the state of the Dead that they claim that they easily refute it and based on what you saw in that intro clip buckle up as always what’s budy yeah thanks again for being here and I apologize for the long intro but these guys man are just absolutely ridiculous yep I hope the connection stays clear but by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we ask the Holy Spirit to fill us may the Holy Spirit energize us to recall the scriptures and interpret them correctly destroy all a and sin and have his way for the glory of the Father the Son the

Lord Jesus Almighty and the eternal spirit the one true God in Jesus name so yes just for the record I don’t even know these folks apart from you mentioning them to me I haven’t watched their so-called response but if they’re this Brave and I hope they don’t make excuses how come they didn’t join to try to refute me and no another thing as you just demonstrated you proved it was that young man who asked to debate me I didn’t ask to debate them right so I yeah going on right we have an agenda we’re trying to we’re trying to because they’re they you’ve you

Earned the title from them Sam you don’t know this but you’ve actually earned the the badge of honor you’re now considered an Adventist critic that’s the term they use so so we like to call them uh critics of Christianity because that’s what they are so well that’s fine well that’s that’s fine I don’t live for adventism I live for trying to proclaim the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ by the power of the holy spirit so when someone tells me that Jesus is Archangel Michael then obviously I’m going to address that issue but there are a lot of claims made in the beginning clip and

It was blasphemous in my opinion because they don’t know the Bible they don’t know christology so I wouldn’t mind demolishing their claims before we get into the issue of death about Jesus Christ a man on Earth and he wasn’t sustaining well hold on that’s why they bring it up we’re going to listen to all the fullness of those clips so we will get to all that and we will absolutely bury this heresy yeah want because I don’t want that I don’t want that to go untouched so I want to make all of that was clipped from what we about to watch okay and listen to and I haven’t watched

So I’m just following your lead this is going to be me hearing their responses for the first time so I don’t know what they have to say apart from what you played so let’s go let’s get into it well before we start we need to look at one statement from Ellen White regarding the Adventist teaching on the nature of the Soul so that you and the audience understand why Adventists are so vem on the subject okay so to start this is from great controversy which she claims in selected messages book three page 122 paragraph 2 the words in this book are allegedly barricaded by a thus

Saith the Lord for those that are knew the papal Tiara is photoshopped because Ellen White is functionally the pope of adventism notice what she says quote through the two great errors the immortality of the soul and Sunday sacredness Satan will bring the people under his deceptions while the former lays the foundation of spiritualism the latter creates a bond of sympathy with Rome the Protestants of the United States will be foremost in stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of spiritualism they will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the

Roman power and under the influence of this three-fold Union this country will follow in the steps of Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience close quote so according to her prophetic voice the teaching of Sunday s ESS and the classical Christian teaching on the soul will allegedly be the two things that bring about their end times hysteria around Protestants and Catholics and I use the phrase classical Christian teaching for a reason because what they claim christians mean by the term immortality of the Soul such as irenaeus example is not what Christians mean by

That phrase but it was also these two teachings Sunday sacredness and the immortality of the soul that she claimed to be shown in vision from God are sending people to predition at lightning speed as a deception of Satan notice quote I saw vision from God the rapidity with which this delusion was spreading in part talking about the state of the Dead the nature of the Soul a train of cars was shown me going with the speed of lightning the angel bade me look carefully I fixed my eyes upon the train it seemed that the whole world was on board that there could not be one left

Said the angel they’re binding in bundles ready to burn then he showed me the conductor who appeared like a stately Fair person whom all the passengers looked up to and reverenced I was perplexed and asked my attending Angel who it was he said it is Satan he’s the conductor in the form of an angel of Light he’s taken the world captive they’re giving o uh they given over to strong delusions to believe a lie that they may be damned this agent the next highest in order to him is the engineer and other of his agents are employed in different offices as he may need them and they are

All going with lightning speed to predition close quote so those of us that don’t believe like Adventists do about the soul are deceived by Satan and we are on the proverbial train headed to hell for believing a deception supposedly because God showed this to Ellen White in a vision the point being Adventists are taught that one of the chief deceptions of Satan is what Christians historically believe about the soul and this is the context in which their fervor around the subject stems from Christians have to understand that so with that as the backdrop let’s get into it so you know

How it goes I’m going to play the video as soon as you hear something that sounds off let’s talk about it God does not die Jesus die how can he be God and if he’s God who died who is running the universe do you understand the objection okay if you understand the objection let’s answer it un understand what the Assumption of the objection is the Assumption of the objection is that death means ceasing to exist ceasing to be conscious secession of Life although there are groups like seven-day Adventists that believe that this is not a Biblical teaching because

Understand what the objection implies if Jesus Is God and he died then who is running the universe assumption implication for Jesus to die he must have cease to exist and if he sees to exist then he’s not running the universe and God never sees us to exist but you understand the objection right because we need to answer this so let’s talk about that there were two things that he brought up he says um you know did Jesus die if he died that means he SE ceases to exist and I guess he’s bring that off of how we view the state of the Dead um and so if if Jesus

Truly did die then who’s running the universe so I think there’s two questions we need to answer did Jesus truly die let’s see what the Bible says about that can we go to um Isaiah CH uh chapter 53 verse 10 let’s do it what does Isaiah 53:10 say about the death of Jesus it says yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him he hath put him to grief when thou shalt make his what soul his soul Thou shalt make his soul a an offering for sin he shall see his seed he shall prolong his days and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand so according to this verse what

Was a sin offering it says his soul his soul was a sin offering what does that word soul mean in the concordance let’s check it out H 5315 it is the word uh nefesh it means Soul you want me to go to strongs or go to strongs all right a breathing creature that is an animal I don’t know m i mean the way that I like to look at it is I see that it means Soul 416 times but there’s also other ways that that word is being used it also means life his life Souls lives person the person itself the heart the mind yeah himself creature body so yeah but there two main

Uh definitions of the word is soul or the life itself right the person yeah so we understand that the the soul or the life of Jesus was made a sin offering now what does it mean that it was a sin offering do we know what happened to all sin offerings in scripture what does Leviticus chapter 14 verse 13 say and he shall slay the lamb in the place where he shall kill the sin offering and the burnt offering in the Holy place for as the sin offering is the priest so is the trespass offering it is most holy all sin offerings in scripture were killed what does that say

About the life of Jesus did Jesus really died if he was a sin offering yes he absolutely did that’s what the Bible says now the Bible also goes on to say in um Revelation chap 1 verse 18 can we turn there Revelation chap 1 verse 18 it says I am he that liveth and was dead and behold I am alive forever more amen and have the keys to hell and of death so notice Jesus says that I am alive forever more right now if Jesus wasn’t truly dead if his soul wasn’t truly dead why would he be saying that I am now alive forever more if he was never truly dead does that make sense

Jesus had to have truly died he had to have been dead right and it also said that he was dead meaning that at one point Jesus did die and he rose again from the grave all right so Sam I I warned you they are going to do Hopscotch ex aesus jumping all over the Bible so we will take it a few verses at a time you’re also getting to see them put to use William Miller’s principles of Bible interpretation where they claim all all you need is a Bible and a concordance and now you basically know Greek and Hebrew but for starters it doesn’t sound like these guys even

Understand the objection in the clip they played because they focused on arguing that the Bible says Jesus died which no duh Christians affirm the Apostles Creed as if this audience even needs to see this I mean from the second Stan a Christian what do we believe we believe in Jesus Christ his only son our Lord who was conceived by the Holy Spirit born of the Virgin Mary suffered under pontious Pilate was crucified died and was buried he descended to Hell the third day he rose again from the dead he ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand

Of God the Father Almighty from there he will come to judge the living and the dead the problem that Sam mentioned was the faulty assumptions Adventists make about the word death not whether or not Jesus died there was no addressing this only question begging they simply continued assuming what needed to be demonstrated by pointing to proof texts that say Jesus died and then porting into there the SDA understanding of death but Sam Isaiah 53:10 Leviticus 14 and Revelation 1:18 prove the Adventist understanding of death and the Soul because they say

Jesus’s Soul was offered up and that all sin offerings were killed they silenced you right oh yeah they they destroyed me anyway I I don’t know how you deal with this and how you can be patient with this because it’s nonsense it’s garbage and this is why they won’t debate number one no one denied that Jesus died so I don’t know what they’re getting at but now I want you guys to see the blasphemy because they’re trying to say that if Jesus offered his soul that means his soul died so that his soul ceased to be so God ceased to be they didn’t address

The objection my objection was if Jesus Is God In the Flesh and Jesus is ever living as God because God cannot see to be conscious he cannot cease to consciously exist if we Define death as me secession of life because they’re saying see he offered his soul so he ceased to be well that means god ceased to be and so they’re back to the original objection which they did not address so now I want you guys because you’re live you didn’t have the courage to come here and debate me I want you to tell everyone that you believe Jesus the God man ceased to be consciously

So that God the son cease to exist and how can God the son cease to exist if you believe he’s the second person of the Trinity equal to the father and the spirit now brother you don’t need to put me full screen you can be alongside of me work together so notice they didn’t address the objection the objection was if Jesus Is God and God is ever living and doesn’t cease to exist so if Jesus died and he ceased to exist how can he be God so now guys I want you to catch the blasphemy see they’re not Christians they’re Heretics they just said Jesus ceased to exist now unless they want to

Claim he wasn’t God on Earth that’s another blasphemy because then they’re saying he was no longer God but only a man so what happened to divine nature and I hope they don’t butcher Philippians 2 because I’m going to butcher their butchering Philippians 2 but we’ll get there I’m G to butcher the butchering Philippians too are you well not only are they but wait until we look at uh some of the sources that we’re going to look at from the SDA church and their utilization of Philippians 2 and I’ll be really really curious to see these apologists deal

With these claims and they have to do ironically enough with Sam Michael but deont go ahead go ahead you’re were saying go ahead because I want I was gonna say Deontay is actually wrong because not all sin offerings were killed and this is their Achilles heel the scapegoat was a part of the singular sin offering Leviticus 165 and it was not killed now Adventists will twist and do all sorts of mental gymnastics to try and get around this but the text is clear Two Goats One Singular sin offering so he’s not even right on that tertiary Point yep yep now I I wonder if

They assume they he’ll eventually die because he’s being L off into the Wilderness so they’ll die but put that aside let’s put this aside now they again assume that if he offered his soul and a soul died that means the soul ceased to exist but that’s begging the question guys try a little harder you’re assuming your definition of death that if you die you cease to exist I’m about to now bury that definition because if you don’t mind brother open up John 29-22 and since he went to Revelation now watch what they’re going to do because they themselves acknowledged

That even the lexican will affirm that the term nephesh or if you want to go with the Greek term or Psy the term for soul has a broad range of meaning so you have to determine the precise meaning depending on the context how a word is used in context but that Jesus is offering his soul doesn’t mean he ceased to exist yes his soul died he offered his soul unto death but what does death mean so quoting versus to show that he offered his soul and that means he ceased to exist begs a question you have prove in your case and then we’re going to look at passages where people are

Dead but they’re said to still be alive as conscious Souls but you’re G to explain that away oh it’s a vision it’s apocalyptic imagery but you quoted Revelation one you can’t have your cake in needed to if a book is good enough to prove your point then it’s good enough to demolish your point but we’re going to demonstrate that slowly read for me John 219 and 22 yep Jesus answered them destroy this Temple and in three days I will raise raise it up the Jews then said it’s taken 4 to six years to build this Temple and you’ll raise it up in 3 days but he was speaking about the

Temple of his body when therefore he was raised from the dead his disciples remembered that he had said this and they believed the scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken so now I’m a little confused because they’re trying to prove that Jesus’s Soul died which means he ceased to exist then how could Christ personally I will raise it up how could he have personally raised his body back to life if he wasn’t still consciously existing that was my argument what was my argument let’s see if you can actually address it in real time because you can’t do it here because you’re too

Afraid because you’ll be demolished for your butchering of scripture may the Lord have mercy on you and you repent and leave LG white this tool of Satan notice again no one denies that Jesus offered his soul in fact give you one in the Greek in Mark 10:45 there Jesus says Mark you don’t need to turn there Mark 10:45 he says for even the son of man did not come to be served but to serve and offer his soul if you look at the word Greek word Su or Psy or get psychology as a ransom for many okay Jesus offered his soul and he died and his soul died what

Does that mean it it doesn’t mean he ceased to exist because here the Lord says he personally will raise his body back to life notice again destroy this Temple destroy my body and I’ll raise my body back to life so that didn’t help you in the least but it did show you guys are blasphemers it demonstrated you’re Heretics because guys I want everyone here and clip it they just said that Jesus as God who became flesh ceased to exist so now either they’re going to have to admit God can cease to exist which then destroys the very definition of God because he’s a

Necessary being whoever Lives who never dies meaning cease to exist in their definition or they’re going to have to then argue the other Blasphemous assertion that he ceased to be God while he became man well what happened to Divine Nature where did it go either way you guys are blasphemers but let’s let’s make it harder for them there are places in which clearly the soul is distinguished from the body so that you can kill the body but not kill the soul can you read Matthew 10:28 for us yep the words of Our Lord yeah one of the strongest dichotomies in scripture which

Completely butchers yeah before you read I want people to know this is what they’re calling they’re committing a root fallacy eological fallacy they’re seeing how a word is used predominant or they see what the word originally meant and assume that this meaning must have be applied in every sense well that’s going to bury them because now Matthew 10:28 it is not loading here all right there we go all right so Jesus says and do not fear Those Who Kill the body but cannot kill the soul rather fear Him who can destroy both soul and Body in Hell see they just

Buried themselves again because notice what they said that when Jesus offered his soul that means he died well how did he offer his soul well he died in the flesh in the body and the cross so that means if you kill the body you kill the soul right that’s their argument now they’re gonna go ahead well I was just gonna say because for those that don’t know Soul sleep is not the most accurate term for their position I call it Soul death because what they claim is that the soul is the equivalent of an an analogy I used to hear when I was growing up in adventism was if you had a

Pile of nails and a pile of board you have a pile of nails and a pile of boards if you put the two together you get a box but if you take them apart the Box no longer exist they claim the soul is like the Box the body and breath come together to create the soul if you separate the two the soul no longer exists but as you can see here Jesus clearly says that the body can die and the soul is not dead exactly so when they kill Jesus’s body if we follow our Lord’s words then his soul did not cease to exist so yes the soul dies without ceasing to exist this is what they’re

Not getting they’re assuming if you die you cease to exist no so the Lord offered his soul in death and yet he didn’t cease to exist because death is the moment when the soul or Spirit leaves your body which is why your body is no longer animated so that’s Matthew 10:28 but let’s look at other ver now remember they went to Revelation right yep now guys how much how many of you want to bet me and I’m not a betting man I believe gambling can is sinful or can be sinful I know but how many of you want to bet me that they’re going to say well this is apocalyptic imagery it’s

Symbolism you can’t take it literally and yet they’re the ones who appeal to Revelation can you read only when it’s convenient only when it’s convenient because they’ll tell you for example one of the supports that they’ll try and tell you for there being a literal physical temple building in heaven that Jesus is conducting the investigative judgment in yada yada well Revelation one apocalyptic symbolism huh Revelation 1 says that he’s amongst the candlesticks the lampstands even though Revelation 120 says the lampstands are churches seven churches y oh oh oh so so

That’s not that’s not apocalyptic simplism Now watch how they’re gonna explain this away Revelation 69 to11 and notice conveniently they use the word Soul there the Greek word for soul Su but what does it say sorry it’s taking a minute to load here and I don’t know exactly why these are very pathetically bad no wonder they don’t debate I don’t blame you guys if these are your arguments I would stay in your own corner and hide behind your YouTube channel because that’s the best you got but anyway Revelation 69 it’s gonna get worse it’s gonna get a lot

Worse brother honestly just listening for a few minutes it agitates my spirit May the spirit give us perfect self- constraint and fill us with joy to demolish our blasphemies because I can’t handle Bible butcher who blashe the Lord but for the sake of the Lord we’ll do it to their objections Revelation 69 to1 when he opened the fifth seal I saw under the altar The Souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had born what did he see The Souls of those slain oh but I thought if you get slain that means not only your body but

Your soul because somehow you are your soul your soul is you so if I Slaughter your body I’m slaughtering you and therefore I’m slaughtering your soul and that means you don’t exist right yeah because if your breath separates from your body your soul no longer exists but how can they be so oh but it’s apocalyptic here it’s not literal see it’s their IPs Dix it it’s you know we don’t take it literally therefore it can’t be literal but this part we say it’s literal yeah how convenient but I’m going to show you not only apocalyptic literature I’m going to show you other

Places where physical death is where the Soul and Spirit leave and you cannot explain this way as apocalyptic symbolism so reread that Revelation 6:9-11 when he opened the fifth seal I saw under the altar The Souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne they cried out with a loud voice oh Sovereign Lord holy and true how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer until the number of their fellow

Servants and their brothers should be complete who were to be killed as they themselves had been so let me get this straight the Lord is telling them he will avenge their blood as soon as the full number of the martyrs is complete that’s what it says right there that’s correct so in other words just like we know there will be Christians who will be literally killed on earth and the Lord knows the number of those who will be killed and once that number is complete then will avenge them and just like we know the Lord will literally come to judge a living and the

Dead why would I then allegorize that these are literal Souls who are there being comforted and wearing white robes why would I allegorize that if the Lord judging the inhabitants of the Earth for slaying his servants is not allegorical it’s literal and if Christians being killed on Earth is not allegorical but literal why then would I assume that the souls who are consciously alive after they were slain that’s not literal that’s allegorical can you explain that to me no but let me prove to you that these Souls who are slain right whom the Lord

Will avenge it’s not allegorical now remember why I’m saying it’s not allegorical folks because the element of the Lord judging the inham of the Earth for slaying Christians that’s actual no one’s going to allegorize that unless they’re full predis who don’t believe Jesus will return physically bod which is another damnable heresy and Christians being Slaughter on Earth that’s literal that’s not allegorical so then the souls who are now alive after being slain why would I allegorize that and why would I assume that they’re not consciously alive and

Why are they under the alter by the way which now actually goes back to his point see when they make that argument they bury themselves because they believe there’s a Heavenly Tabernacle right absolutely and they believe just like what just like what was on Earth only what was on Earth is a scaled down replica of that true Heavenly sanctuary building and it has a holy Place apartment and a Most Holy Place apartment and an 1844 Jesus got up off of a throne in the Holy Place apartment moving to the most holy place okay so there’s an literal altar a literal Tabernacle a literal

Throne Mercy Seat well you know why they’re before the altar gentlemen because when they were slaughtered on Earth God accepted their deaths as a pleasing sacrifice being presented before the altar you guys you just buried yourselves because you use Isaiah 53:10 that the Lord offered his soul as an asham a guilt offering and yet here we have souls who were sacrificed without ceasing to exist and their souls are now before the altar as that acceptable sacrifice which shows your definition of Soul death is unbiblical you see what you guys did to yourselves you see that right brother

Yeah and not just that but this is another case of them doing what’s called illegitimate totality transfer where they just Port into the meaning of a word that it always essentially means the same thing across the board and then whenever they see that word they just assume that understanding or they’ll go to the the concordance and the concordance is apparently the infallible guide for them yeah exactly not LG white but or LG white and concordance if agrees with LG white they’re false prophets now let me show you other examples where physical death occurs because your soul

Leaves or your spirit leaves showing that the soul and the body are not always identical now let me repeat words have broad range of meaning yeah the specific meaning of the word has to be determined by the context at times Soul refers to you just you bless the Lord oh my soul meaning I Will Bless The Lord some sometimes it refers to the seat of emotion sometimes it refers to that non-physical aspect of you that is animating your body and when it leaves your body ceases to be living now I’m going to show you that can you read for me James 2:26 yep we’re gonna now use Soul and

Spirit because there are times in which Soul Spirit are used interchangeably synonymously NE ORS they’re used sometimes interchangeably synonymously and some people think they’re three aspects to us Soul spirit and body well whatever I’m not here to debate that point if you’re a trotus or a dichotomus but James 226 what does it say for as the body apart from the spirit is dead so also Faith apart from works is dead now they believe works are are distinct from Faith right correct so they have to admit the spirit is distinct from the body right well if you were using logic but again

This this doesn’t tend to be the Forte of of this crowd but how they going to get around it if they’re going to tell me yeah works are not identical to Faith they’re distinguished but they’re in seum that you can have saving faith if it doesn’t Encompass works then how are you GNA tell me the spirit is not distinct from the body which is why you can’t separate the spirit of the body because if the spirit leaves the body then the body dies right correct so there you go that’s their claim no but the spirit to them cannot be distinct from the body in the sense

That if you’re telling me all I am because when they say I’m a soul now would they Define Soul different from Spirit yeah so it depends now when you actually deal with people that are actually um like I said reputable in this organization not these these guys um you will find that they will say it does depend on the context but they often times say the spirit is the breath of a man um God God breathed into man the the breath of life and so the spirit is the let me correct them on that now let me correct okay go ahead I want to correct the error now they’re playing

Games because it doesn’t say he breathed Rach into them in Genesis 2:7 it says when he breathed the breath of life and Man became a living Soul it’s not the word spirit so are they now saying Soul and Spirit are interchangeable because that’s going to bury them further well like I said I don’t know about these guys specifically um but it if you look at the abous belief fundamental beliefs book I’ve cited that periodically when you’ve been on here it’s the exposition of their own beliefs they have a whole section in there where they talk about the difference between the spirit and

The soul and the body and what being a living Soul means so they will typically distinguish between spirit and soul okay well that’s my point if they go to Genesis 27 that doesn’t use the word r it doesn’t use the word r which is Spirit if if you actually look at it if you bring up the concordance when it says and yahwah God Yahweh God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into him the breath of life and Man became a living Soul y it says soul and he breathed the breath of life it doesn’t say breathed the breath of spirit there so if they’re

Going to say that’s the spirit being infused well they just argued spirit and soul are interchangeable so then if the soul if the body dies mean the soul dies then that means the body dies the spirit dies but here we’re told no the spirit leaves and the body dies and to show you that the spirit still consciously exists when it leaves the body now let’s go to another reference Hebrews 12:22 to 24 y Heavenly Mount Zion yep Hebrews 12:22 to 24 here is proof that when your body dies it’s because your spirit leaves but your spirit is still ious and Alive

Hebrews 1222 to4 sorry guys it’s take me it only it takes a few minutes to spouse error like these Heretics but it takes a long time to refute it so I’m going slowly because I didn’t listen to it I wouldn’t listen to it they waste my time but I’m doing it for the benefit of you guys and by the power of the Holy Spirit giving us recall scripture May Empower us to execute it correctly they’re Heretics they’re not Christians because they’re going to end up blaspheming the Lord and I sense it because they’re going to end up having say Jesus wasn’t God on Earth

Blasphemy it’s going to get it’s going to get a lot worse a lot worse here’s the proof that when your spirit leaves your body your body returns us but your spirit is still alive here Hebrews 12:22 to 24 but you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the Living God the heavenly Jerusalem and to innumerable angels of fesal gathering and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven and to God the judge of all and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect who what what’s there the spirits of the righteous made perfect where are their

Bodies in the grave so but their Spirits are not dead in the definition their espousing their Spirits are there so let me ask you a question before they tap Dan around this they believe in the Heavenly Jerusalem right correct and they believe God the father is there right correct and the angels are there right correct so when it says you’ve come to Mount Zion Heavenly Jerusalem city of living God to numerable Angels that’s literal right correct and God the judge of all he’s literally there correct then why would you allegorize that the spirits of just men made perfect are

There how you going to allegorize that if you’re going to take Heavenly Jerusalem as being actual and you’re going to take angels as actually living there there actually there it’s literal and God the father is literally there and then he going to talk about Jesus Christ the mede of a New Covenant he’s also literally there and the blood he presents which they would take literally then how the hell are you going to get around the fact that the spirits of these men are also literally there and they’re alive and they’re having church because it says the Church of the

Firstborn those who first fruits of the Believers who are now having Church in heaven how do you going to get around that one yeah that they won’t and this is also why they’re not sometimes you’ll get Adventists that tell you no no no we don’t necessarily officially affirm the Creeds but in substance we would agree with with what’s there no you wouldn’t because you don’t believe there’s a church in heaven right now that gathers alongside the body on Earth and worships with us that’s right there I mean it says it says because the word assembly is the word for church correct assembly

And church I should say assembly and Church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven so folks you keep bearing yourselves because you believe Angels literally are in heaven there’s a literal Heavenly Jerusalem God the father is literally there Christ is literally there presenting his blood that means the spirits of these men must also literally be there showing that it’s when your spirit leaves your body your body dies but your spirit is still conscious and Alive now you can finish it reread 23 to 24 because I got a few more and then we can move on but I just want to make this

Point clear and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven and to God the judge of all and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect and to Jesus the mediator of a New Covenant and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel yep now what that means is it’s a it’s a referencing Genesis 4:10 let me explain the last part when Cain tried to cover his sin by saying when God ask him where is your brother he goes how do I know my My Brother’s Keeper God then said what have you done the Bloods of your brother cries out to me meaning

I’ve seen his blood because you’ve murdered him and his blood cries out to me meaning by seeing the blood that you shed it calls for judgment whereas the blood of Christ speaks a better word and that the blood of Christ calls for reconciliation not judgment and wrath but so now you got problems Adventist group because you cannot allegorize the Spirits in heaven saying well that’s allegorical nor can you do it for the souls in Revelation 6911 so notice one place it says they’re there as Souls the martyrs here it says they’re there as Spirits what’s missing

Their bodies because when they were slain on Earth their bodies returned to the dust but their souls and Spirits left now let me give you a few more and I don’t know because do they well anyway we’ll see let’s let’s go to again I’m going to same same them Luke 9 54 I’m sorry Luke 8 54-55 when gyrus his daughter died why did she die and how was she revived Luke 8 5455 now remember this is the reversal of James 226 when he goes to Luke 8 5455 I want you guys to pay attention James 226 says just as the body without the spirit is dead so the spirit leaves your

Body dies well what happens if your spirit returns to your body you live and then I’m going to give you a couple more now read Luke 8545 this is the reversal of James 2:26 but taking her by the hand he called saying child arise and her spirit returned and she got up at once and he directed that something should be given her to eat so why did her body come to life because the spirit entered her body yeah but Sam that’s the breath that’s the Breath of Life returning into the body that’s why it’s not that the spirit was animate so the Breath of Life returned to her

Body so the breath of life left the body in James 226 which is why death occurred and the Breath of Life are now in heaven consciously having fellowship with angels and God in Christ yeah okay I’m convinced yep but you understand James 2:26 says death occurs when the spirit leaves the body which means if the spirit enters the body then your body is now animated right correct and that’s what we saw here here her spirit returned to to her body correct because that’s why she died her spirit left her body so at least we’re establishing the spirit and the body are not identical

The soul and the body are not always used synonymously there are times in which the soul is not the body so you can kill the B body and do nothing to the soul and then the spirit continues to exist apart from the body as we’ve demonstrated now go to 2 Corinthians 12 verses 2 to 4 2 Corinthians 12 2-4 because here I don’t know what they’re going to do with this one because they cannot deny that this is a revelation that was given to a man 14 years prior to the time that Paul wrote 2 Corinthians 12 and the context shows Paul is referring to himself but

Be that as it may notice what he says here Paul writes I Know a Man in Christ who 14 years ago was caught up to the third heaven whether in the body or out of the body I wait wait you confused me how can someone be caught up to heaven without the body because he says that’s possible I don’t know if it’s out of the body he left his body or he was taken in his body how does that make sense in light of their view because if you’re out of your body how do you continue to experience Consciousness according to them uh the same problem here uh that we

See in Philippians 1 where Paul says his desire is to depart from his body and be with the Lord but he knows that for the sake of the church the the body of Christ he remains in his body for a little while longer um apparently according to them Paul desired to cease to exist and his breath to go back to God and his body to go back to the ground but it can’t mean that because it says this person whether in the body a of the body saw the third heaven saw paradise and was given Mysteries that could not be uttered correct reread it right second it’s just a vision though

Sam it’s just a vision I’m glad is that one of their objections because now I’m going to destroy that argument depends who you talk to I can’t speak for those guys I don’t know it wouldn’t surprise me if they it wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve used that but I’ve heard that from Adventist well brother I’m GNA bury that argument because that shows you they don’t know what a vision means I GNA bury that I’m glad you brought it up guys because I well it’s a vision well I’m going to show you you don’t know what Visions mean because if you take your definition of vision in the sense

That you want to that well it’s a vision so we can’t take it literally man that means Paul did not literally see Jesus because in Acts 26:19 he says he did not prove unfaithful to the vision and he’s talking about the vision where he saw there isn’t Christ so that means he didn’t see Christ because it was a vision and he wasn’t and he wasn’t an apostle then exactly but we’ll get there because that’s part of being an apostle yep now yeah we’ll get to that one but I want you to read for me again 2 Corinthians 122 to4 okay I Know a Man in Christ who 14 years ago was caught up to

The third heaven whether in the body or out of the body I do not know God knows and I know that this man was caught up into Paradise whether in the body or out of the body I do not know God knows and he heard things that cannot be told which man may not utter okay now miles I’m confused if out of the body means he ceased to exist because his breath left how does someone who is no longer consciously existing hear and see things that are inexpressible well right that when you use logic that that becomes a a problem but again the these individuals that

We’re dealing with here um that they don’t tend to employ that so now let me turn the vision argument let me beat them at their own game and already refute their argument if they use that in their life oh well Vision doesn’t mean it’s literal okay because in Matthew 17 I want you to open up I’m going to show you how to destroy this objection because I hear all the time and I get sick of it because that shows you they don’t understand what Vision means and doesn’t mean biblically so if you go to Matthew 17 you know what I’m going to refer to but if you read the

First five verses Jesus is transfigured do they believe that literally um yeah and I point this out all the time because they will often try and oftentimes try to use it’s funny they’ll play both sides of the fence sometimes on this Adventist will I don’t know about these guys but Adventist will sometimes play both sides of the field on this and I always point to here to say that uh the Transfiguration is said to be a vision yet what they experienced was real it was literal it wasn’t just like uh you know often times what what people visualize when they

Think of a vision you got it so you anticipated it so Jesus is transfigured James Peter and John see it but it’s called The Vision so he didn’t really he wasn’t really transfigured then they saw a cloud come down and a voice from the cloud saying this is my beloved Son my son of my love listen to him they didn’t literally hear a voice well Peter says they did I’ll get there but but then you got the problem because in Matthew 1773 it says Moses and Elijah appeared how did they appear how did Moses and Elijah appear because according to them death means

Ceasing to exist are you going to tell me well that’s not literal so Jesus being transfigured is not literal the cloud coming down them in verse five is not literal them hearing God’s voice audibly say this is my son whom I love listen to him is not literal of course it’s literal so then why would you argue that Moses Elijah did not actually appear so they’re actually consciously alive they didn’t cease to exist albeit without their bodies now to show you that Peter himself says this actually happened we actually heard the voice of God we actually saw Jesus glorified

Which means they actually saw Moses and Elijah besides the fact in verse four he says let me build three shelters one for you and Moses Elijah why would you want shelters if you’re not actually seeing Moses and Elijah appearing in their spiritual forms but let’s see what he says in second Peter 11618 real quick and I will read this um I will say when it comes to official Adventist representation by way of sources Etc they don’t make this silly claim or or argument um but varying Adventists out there sometimes will because they’ll claim like you were here

Last time and you saw they claim that Michael the Archangel resurrected Moses and took him to Heaven remember Ellen White showed us that and so because that’s the case that’s how Moses was able to be there at the Transfiguration was because Michael the Archangel came down and resurrected him so again the official position of the organization is not going to make this argument but lots of individual Adventists will and these guys it wouldn’t surprise me if they make this horrible argument and let me ref let me refute that show me a single passage where it says Moses was

Resurrected well right and we and we got into that folks you can go check that out in the last stream we went really in depth on that and showed the Ridiculousness of this because they try to use this for support of Jesus being Michael the Archangel and we are going to get to a segment ironically enough when they talk about Philippians 2 where we are going to bring up Michael so maybe we save that for there okay we’ll do but what I want you to do just for to show that Peter took this to be something actually seen second Peter 116 because I want to now refute what a

Vision is and isn’t because they’re gonna say well it’s a vision because I’m gonna now refute that second Peter 1618 okay sorry guys we’re belaboring this point it’s was going to take time so if you have to do a part two or go I don’t mind but I I just like I said it’s easy to spew heresies it takes longer to demolish them thoroughly and I’m going to demolish them thoroughly by the grace of Jesus Christ so in second Peter 11618 does Peter confirm they saw Christ actually glorified and heard an actual voice glorifying Christ because he’s referring to the Mount of

Transfiguration y for we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty for when he received honor and Glory from God the father and the voice was born to him by the Majestic Glory this is my beloved Son with whom I’m well pleased we ourselves heard this very voice born from heaven and we were with him on the Holy Mountain so he actually heard an actual voice saw Christ actually glorified on an actual mountain right correct but Matthew said 179 it’s called a vision Jesus said tell

No man the vision until the son of man is raised can you show that Matthew 179 correct so a vision doesn’t mean you’re not seeing real things and even if it’s symbolic it’s a symbol of something real Matthew 179 and as they were coming down the mountain Jesus commanded them tell no one the vision until the son of man is raised from the dead now let me give you another vision that has to be real meaning even though it’s called a vision doesn’t mean you’re not seeing reality as it is even a symbol is pointing to reality so you’re going to have to then

Decipher the symbol go to acts 265 to19 okay I’m gonna go off camera just for a second it’s fine okay acts 2615 to19 watch here okay one second it’s I think it’s something with Bible Gateway this evening it’s not working we no rush if you need to do something else go ahead now this is Paul recounting his encounter when he he saw and he was converted now watch what he’s gonna say and I said who are you Lord and the Lord said I am Jesus whom you are persecuting but rise and stand upon your feet for I have appeared to you for this purpose to appoint you as a servant and witness to

The things in which you have seen me and to those in which I will appear to you now notice what he says brother he saysi have appeared to you so he actually appeared to him right correct and I’ll appear to you again in the future but now watch though keep reading delivering you from your people and from the Gentiles to whom I am sending you to open their eyes so that they may turn from Darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are Sanctified by faith in me therefore oh king of grippa I was not

Disobedient to the heavenly vision so wait it was a vision correct so that means he didn’t really see Jesus if we follow the logic of some of these guys right correct now that would be Blasphemous wouldn’t it because that means that Paul never saw Christ so he was not a true Apostle it was just the vision and therefore he’s disqualified right yes which is absolutely Paul tell us in 1 Corinthians 9 verse1 am I not an apostle have I not seen the Lord correct but he says it’s a vision all right now what about the resurrection appearance do they believe

That the women actually saw actual angels and then they saw actual Risen Lord in his glorified body of Flesh yes well go read acts 2422 to 24 that’s a vision too Acts 20 uh Luke I’m sorry Luke 2422 to 24 Luke 22 24- Luke uh 22 um Luke 2422 to 24 what’s happening me Lord loosen my I’m sorry Luke 24 22 to 24 my apologies all good again it’s going slow here yeah that’s fine now all of you guys listening on his channel and on my channel go to channel subscribe and like the video make it go viral are you learning and enjoying this this because I’m doing it

For your benefit if they repent glory to God if not at least you guys will be inoculated from believing their lies yep well it doesn’t want to load Sam which is you want to use yep that’s what I’m gonna bring up now L

24 yeah it’s definitely Bible Gateway so I’m going to use a different sure that’s fine here we go there we go let me zoom in here so you can get a better view all right moreover some women of our company amazed us they were at the tomb early in the morning and when they did not find his body they came back saying that they had seen a vision of angels who said that he was they saw a vision of angels so that means they didn’t really see angels for anyone that’s trying to use this argument correct so they it was a but wait I don’t think anyone would be

That sub Deni they saw actual Ang Angels appearing as men and they actually saw Jesus risen in his glorified physical body but it’s called a vision Paul sees the Risen Christ it’s called a vision they’re on a mountain Jesus transfigured God the Father appears in a cloud and they hear his voice audibly it’s called a vision now finish it because I’m going to give you one more example they were at the tomb early in the morning and when they did not find his body they came back saying that they had seen a vision of angels who said that he was alive some of those who were

With us went to the tomb and found it just as the women had said but him they did not see why I thought it’s a vision how did they discover an empty tomb yeah that’s where now the final one final one read Daniel 7 13- 14 for me so we’re going to get to this later because they’re going to go here to try and support one of their absolutely ridiculous heresies okay that’s fine we’ll do this and then we’ll go continue sorry it’s takes longer to refute their nonsense than it is to listen to them folks so bear with us so if you have to do a part two I don’t mind Lord willing

Okay yeah so Luke if you go to Daniel 713 to 14 watch here Daniel sorry Sam that that’s all right Ian we can’t yeah but you’re using a different one right yep it’s giving you a hard time too there no I got it here okay so I saw in the night visions and behold with the Visions right night visions all right correct okay and behold with the Clouds Of Heaven There came one like the son of man and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him and to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom that all peoples Nations and languages should serve him his Dominion

Is an everlasting Dominion which should not pass away and his kingdom won that shall not be destroyed okay now this is a vision so a vision means you won’t see things as they are it’s only symbolism then when Jesus in Mark 14 6162 is told by th priest are you the Christ the son of the Blessed Jesus said I am you shall see the son of man seated at the right hand of power coming with the Clouds Of Heaven did no one give Jesus the memo that this is a vision so why is he saying you shall see the son of man seated at the right hand of power coming with the Clouds Of Heaven because after

All this was something that Daniel saw in a night vision why does the Lord then say I am that son of man who ride the Clouds Of Heaven is Jesus taking that literally is that what he’s doing you got it right yep I’m just letting it based for the the audience yep so that tells you when people tell you it’s a vision that means they’re biblically illiterate they don’t know the Bible they don’t know the language they should not be teaching they need to be humbled and repent one more passage About Soul that death happens when your soul Spirit leaves Genesis 3516 to1 19

And we’re going to go to the other points because I want to bring up other issues like Samuel and spir but we gota wait because I don’t know what’s next I really don’t know I haven’t watched this gen Genesis 3516 to19 pay attention to verse 18 why does she die because the literally says as her soul was departing not her breath it’s her soul was departing she was dying then they journeyed from bethl when they were still some distance from erith Rachel went into labor and she had hard labor and when her labor was at its hardest the Midwife said to Hero not

Fear for you have another son and as her soul was departing for she was dying she called his name Ben onai but his father called him Benjamin so Rachel died and she was buried on the way to epth that is Bethlehem now Lord willing let me know when I can bring up other texts like genesis 15:15 258 to9 with Abraham showing you that he was gathered to the realm of the Dead although his body was buried somewhere else as well as Samuel because I want to address that to make it more thorough but I’m just going to have to wait because we have too much to cover I assume right yep and

It’s going to get a lot worse okay let’s go to the next point because I do want to deal with their blasphemy about Jesus Christ go ahead let’s continue to read let’s go to First Corinthians chapter 15 it says moreover Brethren I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you and also ye have received and wherein ye stand by which also ye are saved if ye keep in memory what I have preach unto you unless ye have believed in vain for I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures what is the first

Thing that we must know about the gospel CHR the first the very first fundamental thing that we know about the gospel is that Jesus indeed did die for our sins amen right if Jesus didn’t really die we didn’t have any we don’t have the gospel because the foundation of the Gospel is that Jesus died for sin right now let’s go to two more verses Matthew 20 verse

28 it says even as the son of man came to be ministered unto uh but to minister and to give his life a ransom for many can we look at what that word what is that word life mean in the concordance life g5590 so it’s the word Su it’s a word that means soul and it also means life so once again soul and life interchangeable words but can I show you somewhere else where that word Su was used can we go to the book of Acts chapter 2 verse 25 chap Acts chapter 2 verse 25 it says for David speaketh concerning him who’s the H Christ I foresaw the Lord so he’s

Speaking about Christ always before my face for he is on my right hand that I should not be moved therefore did my heart rejoice and my tongue was glad moreover also my flesh shall Rest In Hope because thou will not leave my what my soul in hell what is that word Soul meaning the concordance uh H okay let’s look it up uh H 5590 it’s the same word Su which means Soul or life right remember how when Matthew 2028 Jesus said that I give my life he gave his life as a ransom for many but now this verse identifies where that life was it says because thou wil

Not leave my life where in Hell In Hell neither would thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption when we look at that word hell what does it mean in the concordance okay g86 um it’s the word hell 10 times it’s the word grave it means the grave doesn’t it yeah so or or it could mean h yeah right so the Bible makes itself clear that when Jesus died his soul or his life all that Jesus was was in the grave so Jesus was fully in the grave he fully died all right so and this is why it would do people like this well to at least do a cursory reading of

Foundational Christian teaching because again we just saw the Apostles Creed earlier no one is climbing Jesus didn’t actually die but Sam before we hear your response what’s fascinating about Adventist citing 1 Corinthians 15 is that Paul starts by declaring that the gospel he preached he preached to the churches in Corinth is to be kept in memory because that gospel saves them yet these guys’s own official church organs in this case the review and Herald States stuff like this quote the very fact that this Prophecy of the Three Angels messages talking about

Revelation 14 covers the period between 1844 and the end of this age shows conclusively that this three-fold message is God’s special message for us at this very hour just as surely as we are living between 1844 and the coming of Christ just so surely may we know that this three-fold message of Revelation 14 6-12 is God’s present Truth for this present time the time for this message is very definitively fixed to the present generation he who will receive this prophecy as given by Jesus Christ may be just ass sure that this is Christ’s special message for us today as if Jesus

Were to appear in person and speak this three-fold Proclamation with an audible voice in harmony with this idea that this message is limited to the period between 1844 and the end we find that no one prior to 1844 had ever claimed to have given this three-fold message neither Luther nor Calvin nor Knox Wesley Alexander Campbell or any of the other great lights of those times set up the claim that they were doing this predicted work of Revelation 14 6-12 if this work had been done by any of them they would surely have known it this prophecy of Revelation 14

6-14 does not and cannot refer to any proclamation of the Gospel in the days of the Apostles the early Christian fathers or the reformers of the 16th 17th or 18th centuries it is strictly a Last Day message applicable to those who live just before the return of Christ close quote so what the SDA Church calls the gospel is their own novel message that isn’t what Paul preached and most definitely is not what he means by the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15 with regards to acts 2:27 it was claimed that this verse proves that all that Jesus was remained with him in the grave this is

Simply reiterating the Adventist prophetess notice folks quote when he closed his eyes in death upon the cross the soul of Christ did not go at once to Heaven as many believe or how could his words be true I am not yet ascended to my father the spirit of Jesus slept in the Tomb with his body and did not Wing its way to heaven there to or there to maintain a separate existence and to look down upon the mourning disciples inbombing the body from which it had taken flight all that comprised the life and intelligence of Jesus remained with his body in the

Sepil and when he came forth it was as a whole being he did not have to summon his Spirit from heaven he had power to lay down his life and take it up again close quote and this is supposed to be in harmony with acts 227 nevertheless we still have yet to see it demonstrated that what Adventists assume is meant by the word death is what the word means we just got more proof texting where it says Jesus died Sam 1 Corinthians 15 Matthew 20 and Acts 2 are the next proof texts that allegedly prove the SDA teaching about death is true your response isn’t ironic I already

Mentioned the parallel to Matthew 2028 is Mark 10:45 but I’m really baffled before I destroy their lies again now notice even this friend had to correct him he goes oh so Hades Hades means grave right he goes yeah but it also means hell did you catch it correct because they’re trying to impose one definition but what I’m really baffled here she says that Jesus’s Soul or Jesus Spirit slept in the Tomb and as she goes he didn’t have to summon his Spirit from Heaven he had the power to lay down his life and take it up again how if he’s asleep how did he do

That well not just that but again if you look at their teaching on death systematically again they’re and you’re going to see these guys put this forth here in a little bit like you did in the intro Icebreaker where they’re going to because the aous Jesus was only a man while on Earth so when he was dead and he’s just like we are he essentially ceased to exist for three days and so we’re going to look at another quote from her later where she contradicts herself and she says only the father could resurrect him and that’s actually more consistent with their system

Because that’s essentially the case and I brought this up when I was in SDA University to a number of the religion professors and we always got some sort of runaround and some sort of never actually dealing with the problem of you claim to be Orthodox in your christology and to worship the same God that Christians do yet you guys believe stuff like this how does this comport with Orthodoxy and it’s just a bunch of runaround so yeah this is blasphemy so you guys I I assumed they were going to deny that Jesus was God on Earth so you’re saying we’re going to see that

Confirmed okay now let me show you the dishonesty of these folks number one you saw even the lexican they cited says that Hades which is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew shol shol in Hebrew Hades or Hades in Greek can mean grave or can mean hell meaning the realm of the dead now how do I know that when it says that Jesus’s Soul was not abandoned in shol because it’s quoting Psalm 168 to 11 if you look at the Hebrew and Greek Hades that that’s not grave that’s not the grave but it’s referring to the realm of the Dead that means when Jesus’s Soul left

His body his body was in the grave but his soul went to the realm of the Dead I want to show you a passage that’s going to obliterate them because I’m I highly doubt they’re aware of this brother I want you to go to Luke 8 26-31 I want you to see the word Abyss now depending on the translation the abyss may be translated bottomless pit but it’s the word abuso abusos right it’s the word Abyss okay now watch here when the demoniacs confront our Lord Luke 82631 they beg the Lord not to send them to the abusos ab abuso the abyss okay now you’re gonna see what

That is this word is used in Luke 8:31 it’s used in Revelation 9 and it’s used about Satan Revelation 20 verse 1-3 the abyss or bottomless pit abusos refers to the place where where demons are constrained in prison and where Satan will be bound for a thousand years because I’m going to show you where Jesus went when he physically died read Luke 8: 26-31 then they sailed to the country of the gazin which is opposite Galilee when Jesus had stepped out on land there met him a man from the city who had demons for a long time he had worn no clothes and he had not lived in a house but

Among the tombs when he saw Jesus he cried out and fell down before him and said with a loud voice what have you to do with me Jesus Son of the most high God I beg you do not torment me for he had commanded the unclean Spirit to come out of the man for many a time it had seized him he was kept under guard and bound with chains and shackles but he would break the bonds and be driven by the demon into the desert Jesus then asked him what is your name and he said Legion for many demons had entered him and They begged him not to command them to depart into the abyss

Remember the word Abyss abusos they don’t want to go there and these are demons right let’s see what the abyss is go to Revelation 9 read the first 11 verses watch here watch where we’re going to go with this so they just lied to you or they’re ignorant which is why they shouldn’t be teaching the Bible I hope you’re listening if you are ignorant repent if you’re Liars the Lord rebuke you and expose you because you guys are Bible perverts you’re perverting scripture like Satan because ellene white was of the devil may you repent and Escape her snares for the

Glory of Christ now watch this word Abyss abusos Abyss what is this realm read Revelation 91-1 and the fifth angel blew his trumpet and I saw a star falling from Heaven to Earth and he was given the key to the shaft of the bottomless pit now click on your a see what it is what’s the word see the a right there what does it say Greek the abyss abuso same word like in Luke 8:31 correct that you want you remember the de demoniacs didn’t want to go there because that’s where de demoniacs are consigned until the day of judgment keep that in mind so it’s the

Abyss right keep read now go back and read he opened the shaft of the bottomless pit and from the shaft rast smoke like the smoke of a great furnace and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft then from the smoke came Locust on the earth and they were given power like the power of scorpions of the earth they were told not to harm the grass of the Earth or any green plant or any tree but only those people who did not have the Seal of God on their foreheads they were allowed to torment them for five months but not to kill them and their torment was like the

Torment of a scorpion when it stings someone and in those days people will seek death death and will not find it they will long to die but death will flee from them in appearance the locusts were like horses prepared for battle on their heads were what looked like crowns of gold their faces were like human faces their hair like women’s hair and their teeth like lion’s teeth they had breastplates like breastplates of iron and the noise of their wings was like the noise of many chariots with horses rushing into battle they have tails and stings like scorpions and their power to

Hurt people for five months is in their tails they have as kings over them the angel of the bottomless pit his name in Hebrew is abdon and in the Greek he is called apolon now what was the word for bottomless pit again abusos abusos so the abyss right correct same word as used by our Luke 8 when the demoniac the legion didn’t want to go to the abyss right correct and notice when this Angel open up the shaft what came out came out locusts that had tailes like scorpions right correct to harm people for five months because I’m going to show you these are demons in a

Minute but now where will Satan be bound in Revelation 20 verses 1 or3 the bottomless pit which is the abyss right correct show them so people don’t think we’re making it up because you’re going to see where Jesus went what verses Revelation 20 verses 1 to3 oh 1 to

Three watch

Here Bible gateways giv me our time again yep then I saw an angel coming down from heaven holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and great chain what’s the word for bottomless pit it’s going to be AB abusos yeah the abyss that’s why I think you have a letter if you click it I’ll show you so you can see y says AB right the abyss yep you know notice this keep going and he seized the dragon that ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan and bound him for a thousand years and threw him into the pit and shut it and sealed it over him so that he might

Not deceive the Nations any longer until the thousand years were ended after that he must be released for a little while Sam really quick just so you are aware I don’t want to Sidetrack onto this but just so you know Adventists think because the adven a system purports because their Pioneers put forth this supports Satan being the scapegoat that this is talking about Satan being thrown off the mountain after the completion of the investigative judgment and sin is transferred onto him and he’s cast down and they say the bottomless pit is the earth that’s a that is desolate and

There’s no one here for a thousand years because they’re premillennialists that believe the millennial Reign happens in heaven for a thousand years so even though when we saw Revelation N9 Locus came out to at the tales of scorpions right yeah okay all right so that means it’s not empty they’re there are demonic creatures in it right now who are constrained and being tormented but keep reading so what happens to Satan did you read all of it um yes okay so bottomless pit shut it sealed it over him so that he might not deceive the Nations any longer until the

Thousand years were ended after that he must be released for a little while now did everyone understand I want all of you to here Revelation 9 vers 111 Revelation 20 vers 1-3 Luke 8:31 Locust like Spirit creatures with tals like scorpions the legion the demoniac the demons and Satan are confined in this Abyss abusos the bottomless pit did you guys see that and if you want proof that these locust-like creatures are demons with tals of scir meaning they’re demons they’re malevolent demonic Spirit creatures who are confined but will be released it’s Luke 10:17 to 20 because

If you go to Luke 10:17 to20 verse 19 the Lord says he’s given us authority to trample on snakes and scorpions right and no power of the enemy will harm you well what are snakes and scorpions demonic Powers right you with me there yep okay now why is this relevant because did you know that Paul said that when Jesus was raised from the dead he came out of the Abyss Romans 10 6-7 he came out of the Abyss Paul says when our lord Jesus was raised up and was resurrected that he came up out of the Abyss it’s the word abuso same word Romans 106 to7 so here Hades Hades

Does it mean the grave it means the realm of the dead so they lied or they’re ignorant and if they lied that means they’re of the devil if they’re ignorant they have no business refuting anyone Romans 10 6 to7 Romans 10 6-7 so I know you guys are watching live so did you know this then you’re Liars you’re the father of the devil if you don’t stop rebutting you’re embarrassing yourselves go do something else go sell burgers or car insurance Romans 106 to7 sorry guys it’s uh he’s got technical problems okay but the righteousness based on faith sayso not say in your heart who

Will Ascend into heaven that is to bring Christ down did Jesus come down from heaven correct like John 638 says for I came down from heaven not to do my will but the will of him sent me so Jesus actually came down from heaven right correct but then he actually came up from the abyss because notice or who will descend into the abyss that is to bring Christ up from the dead did you notice the abyss is the realm of the dead but they’re not dead in the sense that they don’t cease to exist do they believe Satan’s GNA cease to exist when he’s in the abyss no he will after that okay but

During the time of the Abyss he’s still conscious right correct because he’s Chained and these locusts when they came out they were alive in the abyss so folks Hades doesn’t mean grave Hades mean meant that Jesus went to the realm of dead meaning when those who die their bodies went to the grave but their souls went to the realm we call the realm of the Dead Hades because it says Jesus came up out of the Abyss for those three days the Lord’s body was in the grave being preserved by the Lord and his soul Spirit went to that realm to proc claimed victory that

He had conquered the powers of Darkness so why did they lie or are they ignorant they don’t know the Bible yeah um now Sam what they’re trying to get at like I’d mentioned is that the Advent Jesus was only a man while on Earth and set his divine nature aside so notice the last time or we looked at this uh I think the last time that you were here one of the times this is from the SDA organization’s website on an article titled what Adventists believe about the life death and resurrection of Christ notice they say Jesus came to experience life as we do as 100% human out of love

For every single one of us he chose to be stripped of his glory Philippians 2 6-8 and was given no advantage over us when it came to living a life without sinning the word became flesh and dwelt Among Us John 1114 but this made him no less Divine Jesus was still 100% God John 1:1 this concept and then they bold it that Jesus is 100% God and 100% human hypothetic Union can be mindboggling but this was necessary in God’s plan to Deliver Us from the grip of sin while the great controversy rages on meaning both good and evil surround us daily Waring against one another so

Jesus as part of the godhead had to live perfect life then his innocent blood could cover our sins and make it possible for us to inherit eternal life now here’s the kicker Philippians 26-8 says that even though Jesus Is God he set his divine nature aside a Blas and took on human nature so they try and pay lip service to the hypothetic union which we will hear these guys bring up later but despite the lip service they immediately contradict the hypothetic Union by giving the kosis interpretation of Philippians 2 and say that Jesus set his divine nature aside and was only a man

On Earth so these gentlemen are trying to prove that when it says Jesus died it means he ceased to exist for three days because he experienced death the same way we do which they claim is a total secession of any conscious activity we did not hear that proven but let’s continue because we’re going to get to them bringing up Philippians 2 yeah hopefully they bring it up let’s deal because I want to deal with their blasphemy and I I do remember you did mention this while but it’s been a while so that’s good to know go ahead does anybody else want to

Continue yeah let me add to that because some people are going to say that you know Deontay um when you look at that word hell g86 right it is the word Hades and you know throughout the the Bible it’s it’s if you look at different concordances it’s the word Hades it’s the place of departed Souls theer’s definition might even say the name of Hades Pluto of the lower regions right the grave hell like it can it can it can be different things it could be hell it could be you know Hades it could be the grave how do we know which one it really is because the concordance would allow

For all of them well the way that I like to look at this is understand that the book of Acts is actually quoting the Old Testament right so when I look at this I know that uh Acts 2:s 27 is quoting uh Psalms Psalms 10:16 and let’s look at it Psalms 10: 16 sorry Psalms chapter 16 ver verse1 yeah I’m getting my numbers mixed up Psalms 16 ver10 it says for thou will not leave my soul in Hell neither will thou suffer thy Holy One to see corruption well the word hell here when it was originally taken what it meant was it can mean either hell but it can mean grave also

Again this is one to one and this is where a lot of the concl the um confusion happens right because the way that the Bible uses this word um and I think in the Old Testament it calls it the word shio the way that the Bible uses this word is as the grave right if we look at the concordance like most of the usage is grave pit Graves that’s most of the usage but then what you’ll see is like people when they die they go to the grave but what you’ll see is sometimes the Bible uses the grave in a metaphoric way or in a symbolic way and so what happens is there’s a lot of confusion

That happens because people look at these metaphoric ways of using of seeing the grave the word grave being used and say ah you see that metaphor means this is exactly what’s happening it’s like they’ll look at the Book of Revelation and think yeah scorpions are really coming out or horses with men face like those are real things but no these are metaphoric things and so they’re supposed to be pointing to other things and so what happens is we’re seeing a lot of confusion about what’s real and what’s not God said that the day that you sin you shall surely die right God

Said to Adam you will go back to the dust he didn’t say anything about going to a spiritual realm the things that even talk about a spiritual realm like the rich man and Lazarus is a parable those are the type of things that people look at and say oh that’s real but it it’s not but when we look at this um you know it says for th will not leave his soul in hell and of course the word Soul means life and the word hell means grave okay yeah I’m G to have a field with this I’m glad he mentioned that he just buried himself now pun intended you just buried yourself in your own grave

But go ahead you want to say something well real quick so now you got to hear from Dr Jason Thomas dude has a doctorate of music not theology clearly once again remember what Sam said in the clip they played I don’t want the people to lose sight of this he was getting ready to basically explain how Jesus who is God can die he mentioned sda’s in passing to say their view of death actually creates christological problems in this area and as we have seen already this is completely factual it does it creates serious problems for the hypothetic union that the two Natures of

Christ can never be mixed divided Etc yeah what they’re saying happened to Jesus and death would divide the two Natures of Christ that aside now they’re just spitballing about shol and Hades something we didn’t hear from you in the clip they played let’s engage regardless he said there’s confusion regarding these terms because the Bible uses them in metaphorical ways which is always ironic coming from the hyper literalist interpretation in adventism but only when it’s convenient of course but Sam God told Adam he would return to the dust and Luke 15 is a parable and not

Talking about actual realities and Psalm 1610 supposedly proves the Adventist teaching about the afterlife your respon there’s going to be Annihilation pun intended they’re going to be annihilated really they’re very bad I hope you’re listening live because you just buried yourself and you handed handed it to me by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ okay number one I’m GNA show you where death doesn’t mean ceasing to exist because it talks about those who are dead in their sins but no one denies that they were consciously alive I’m going to show you that Luke 16 even if

It’s a parable doesn’t mean it’s not true because he has the wrong view of Parables if you actually study Parables test me on on this parables are based on everyday life experiences in other words all The Parables of Our Lord are called from actual everyday activities done under the sun on earth like a farmer who s seed and these things are real they are persons activities functions that actually exist in the world so now that particular Parable may not be based on an actual event but the parable is drawing from everyday life experience and activities I don’t know if you’re

Aware of this so cor let’s say it again no you’re you’re correct um and Parables Even If This Were a parable um it creates serious problems for them because they need to explain to us Parables use uh actual realities uh or objects to describe real things so what does the fire represent what does the conscious experience represent what does the torment uh represent if it’s a parable what do all those things represent well they’re going to try and tell you that this is just a parable teaching about the dangers of wealth now notice he alluded to Revelation 9 Scorpion’s coming out or

Locust and he says well that’s a metaphor but a metaphor for what actual living beings that are actually coming out of the Abyss who will actually harm Mankind and if you read Revelation 9:18 to 21 we see they’re even likened or they’re identified with demons Revelation 9:20 so point being yes I don’t believe that demons are actually snakes and scorpions that I see every day that I squash but that doesn’t mean they don’t appear Serpentine or they don’t appear as as a scorpion or that the imagery is referring to actual demons that actually are in the abyss

That actually come out because like you said they believe that Satan will be actually in the abyss and that’s not simply a metaphor right correct so notice how convenient it is Satan will be actually in the abyss but when locust come out with long hair like a woman and a tail like a scorpion sting mankind well that’s a metaphor yes even if it’s a metaphor it’s a metaphor describ in realities that actually exist in an actual place called The Abyss that doesn’t help your case so that’s number one now coming back to the issue of death can you read for me Ephesians 2

Read from verses 3 to six among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh carrying out the desires of the body and the mind and were by Nature children of Wrath like the rest of mankind but God being rich in Mercy because of the great love with which he loved us even when we were dead in our trespasses made us alive together with Christ by Grace you have been saved pause right there so we were dead in our trespasses but then we were made alive so according to them does that mean that we were no longer consciously in existence until the moment we were

United to Christ and Made Alive well what’s ironic about this is they have to make this some sort of metaphor or it can’t be actually an aspect of man’s being being dead it has to be some other thing because they are anthropological monists that the only living aspect of your being is your breath body combination so in other words they don’t follow scripture they read into scripture their Traditions the butcher but for those of you let the Bible speak did you see what death doesn’t mean death whether spiritually or physically doesn’t mean secession of

Life doesn’t mean that because we were dead in sins meaning we were severed from fellowship and communion with God who is the source of life because of our sins but we’re still consciously alive let me explain what this is saying for those who didn’t get it God is life he’s a source of life but because of our sin we were cut off from fellowship and communion with God the source of life but we were still consciously alive so death does not mean ceasing to exist whether it’s applied spiritually or physically but read it to seven because I’m going to give you another one so

That in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable Riches of his grace and kindness toward us in Christ Jesus now go to Colossians 21-13 again let me repeat what death doesn’t mean death does not mean ceasing to exist secession of Life ceasing to consciously exist death in this context means because of our sins were cut off from communion and fellowship with God which is exactly what Ephesians 2 goes on to say if you read it all the way to 22 correct it talks about the Gentiles who are alienated from God who were foreigners and strangers but now brought

Near to God because Christ by his blood has brought peace and made the Gentiles and the Jews one new man reconciled to God it’s talking about being severed from fellowship communion with God the source of light because of your sins cutting you off from fellowship with God because God will not commune with Sinners until and unless they repent so here death doesn’t mean ceasing to exist when it refers to us being dead in our sins so spiritual death similarly physically dying doesn’t mean you cease to exist either and I’ll prove that in a minute go to Colossians 2

11:13 in him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands by putting off the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ having been buried with him in baptism in which you were also raised with him through faith in the power working of God who raised him from the dead and you who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh God Made Alive together with him having forgiven us all our trespasses now obviously it’s spiritual but it doesn’t mean it’s metaphorical in the sense that it’s not real because unless you assume only the

Physical the material matters then you have a skewed understanding of what the Bible says the Bible says it’s the spiritual realm the spiritual reality Spirit that’s real and the physical material realm is a shadow of that which is spiritual so if you think it’s the physical that’s real then you’re not being biblical the physical the material shadow of what is real the reality that underlies that’s the foundation of the material Physical Realm and what is the reality spirit because God is Spirit God is Spirit by Nature he is reality everything consists in God and that God

Brought all things into being preserves all things but God being Ultimate Reality is spirit so that means ultimate reality is that which is spiritual so they got it mixed up and they got things upside down so now we’ve established here are places where people who are dead are still consciously alive and I’ve shown physical death doesn’t mean session of life and I’m going to prove it from the example he gave of Abraham I’m not going to give you further proof that the story of Abraham rich man Lazarus story of Abraham rich man Lazarus even if you want to say it’s

A parable still is based on realities Jesus our lord is conveying the reality of the afterlife that when you die you to continue to exist because his parables are based on everyday actual activities and experiences that people engage Under the Sun on Earth and here he’s giving you an example of what it’s like in the afterlife when you die and I’m gonna prove it to you I’m GNA prove it now brother I’m G to just give these you don’t need to turn there we know that in Genesis 11 22-32 if you guys read Genesis 11 22-32 Abraham was from the or or of CI right y yep and that

Would be in Shar meaning Iraq called Babylon we then know that his father Tera and him they settled in haran yeah and his ancestors died in or of Cala and his father and his brother died in haran then Abraham was told to live in tents with his wife Sarah and lot and his wife and kanaan right correct we also know and guys don’t take my word for it we also know that in Genesis 3 when Sarah died he purchased the cave of Mella to bury Sarah there and the only one buried there was Sarah no one else Sarah was the only one buried in that cave Abraham’s

Ancestors his father mother they were buried elsewhere his dad would have been buried haran his ancestors Ro Cala keep that in mind now watch what God tells Abraham in Genesis 15:15 read it for

Me as for you you shall go to your fathers in peace you shall be buried in a good old age wait it says as for you you shall go to your fathers in peace now notice the qualifier this is going to confirm that Jesus is teaching Luke 16 is based on an actual reality he’s giving you an actual yep reality in other words he’s describing the afterlife as it is notice he says Abraham will be gathered to his fathers in peace right correct Paradise implication implication not everywhere not everyone there is in peace right correct you will be gathered to your

Fathers in peace you shall be buried in good old age now brother when Abraham died he was buried next to Sarah in the cave MFA there was no one else but it says you’ll be gathered to your fathers where your fathers are you will be gathered to them and you’ll be in peace but he wasn’t gathered to them physically because his ancestors were buried in Earl of Cala his father ter in haran but when he died he was buried next to Sarah what does it mean that he was gathered to his fathers in peace where were his fathers for him to be gathered there to be with them but he’d

Be in peace in shol the realm of the Dead meaning this right here proves that when Abraham died though his body was buried his soul left his Spirit left and went and to be United with the others who had died because they all dwell in the same realm it cannot mean physical burial because when Abraham died his body was not g gathered to the tombs of his fathers let me prove that go to Genesis 258 to9 yeah now if we have to do a part two let me know brother because I don’t know how long you want to do this it’s up to you no you’re you’re fine let’s keep

Going Genesis we got to get to christological heresies and the Michael the Archangel Point all right listen that will be it huh Abraham breathed his last and died in a good old age an old man and full of years and was gathered to his people now before you move on brother notice what came first he died and was gathered to his people and then his body was buried correct read all the way to 10 I’m sorry I should have had you read all the way to 10 sorry Isaac and Ishmael his sons buried him in the cave of mechala in the field of Ephron and the son of Zohar the

Hittite east of mammer add another verse on sorry about whoops you’re good the field that Abraham purchased from the Hittites there Abraham was buried with Sarah his wife the only other body in that cave was Sarah but it says in verse eight when he died he he went to his fathers and then he was buried so what happened first what came first read that eight again what came first him being gathered to his fathers or him being buried next to Sarah Abraham breathed his last and died in a good old age an old man and full of years and was gathered to his people so

When he died he automatically was gathered to his people right you see it brother because you’re like no I’m I’m I’m just letting it based for the the audience I like to let their their wheels and gears turn let me know if they’re getting it so he died and gathered to his then the body was buried but the only other body in that cave was Sarah how is he gathered to his people well because because Abraham wasn’t just a anthropological monist creature so guys ironically Genesis proves that there is life after death there’s the realm of the dead so that

When bodies die their souls Gather in that place now I’m going to tie in with Jesus’s Parable to show you that Jesus was speaking of actual realities what actually takes place when you die and it’s not simply a metaphor because reread Genesis 15:15 for me okay whoops as for you you shall go to your fathers in peace you shall be buried in a good old age notice he’s will you gather to his fathers first and then will be buried right and that’s what happened right correct he was gathered to his fathers immediately when he died and then the body was buried later with the only

Other body in that cave Sarah okay now notice it says you’ll be gathered to your fathers in peace implication not everyone there is in peace lo and behold Jesus our lord comes and demonstrates and explains what this means now let’s go to Luke 161 19-25 now it makes sense there was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day and at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus covered with sores who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table moreover even the dogs came and licked his sores the poor man died and was

Carried by the angels to Abraham’s side the rich man also died and was buried and in Hades being in torment he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side now before you move on notice Hades here cannot refer to the Grave because he’s being tormented and he can see Abraham elzar now notice what this shows that when you die though you don’t have a body you have a spiritual form and shape by which you can still be recognized so the LA rich man knew that’s Abraham that’s Lazarus and they’re there and I’m in torment this is why the Lord said

Abraham when I gather you to your people you’ll be in peace because here you see not everyone is peace in that realm here’s a man who’s tormented but Abraham and Lazarus are in peace keep reading all the way 25 the rich man was uh also died and was buried and in Hades being in torment he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side and he called out Father Abraham have mercy on me and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue for I am an anguish in this flame but Abraham said child remember that you in

Your lifetime received your good things and Lazarus in like manner bad things but now he is comforted here and you are in anguish does that sound familiar because God told Abraham I will gather you to your fathers in peace meaning you’re going to be peace in peace there meaning not everyone’s at peace and here our Lord confirms it here’s Abraham Lazarus peace resting comforted the rich man who evil is tormented that’s how we know this Parable is not simply a metaphor but it’s based on actual realities yeah Jesus is describing what happens to the dead when

They die they are still alive in this realm some in peace some in torment you can’t get around this you’re not sorry for the noise I don’t know who this demon is all right but now let’s go deeper in the burial and The Cremation and the annihilation of these guys who think they’re qualified to teach the Bible I know what they’re goingon to say oh that’s a demon go to 1st Samuel 28 11:19 now everyone getting this I don’t know about your channel they’re getting this yep all right 1 Samuel 20 11:19 because I want to show you the oldest and interpretation of this chapter by

Jews in a book that was recognized even among some Jews and many Christians as scripture because it’s found in the death Sea Scrolls did you say 1st Samuel 20 28 119 oh 28

Sorry yeah these guys are very bad they thought they’re refuting me then the woman said whom shall I bring up for you you he said bring up Samuel for me when the woman saw Samuel she cried out with a loud voice and the woman said to Saul why have you deceived me you are Saul the king said to Hero not be afraid what do you see and the woman said to Saul I see a god coming up out of the earth he said to her what is his appearance and she said an old man is coming up and he’s wrapped in a robe and so Saul knew that it was Samuel and he bowed his face to the ground and paid H

It doesn’t say Saul knew it was a demon impersonating Samuel right correct that’sa right correct now one thing before you move on I want you guys pay attention to the language of scripture when the Bible talks about God and angels coming to the Earth it says they came down God came down the Angels Came Down they went up right yep but here it says that Samuel didn’t come down he came up he came up so he wasn’t coming down because there’s clear evidence in Scripture that prior to Christ’s death Resurrection Ascension the spirits went to the same realm but this realm wasn’t God’s

Heavenly presence that only took place after our Lord the hering the hering of Hell techn harrowing of hell yes so so but you notice it he’s coming up but if you pay attention don’t think my word for when God Appears or the Holy Spirit appears or Jesus appears or Angel appear says and they came down from heaven they went up to heaven here it says Samuel came up and he’s gonna talk about it keep reading then Samuel said to Saul why have you disturbed Me by bringing me up bringing me up not bringing me down correct Saul answered I am in great distress for the Philistines are Waring

Against me and God has turned away from me and answers me no more either by prophets or by dreams therefore I have summoned you to tell me what I shall do and Samuel said why then do you ask me since the Lord has turned from you and become your enemy the Lord has done to you as he spoke by me for the Lord has torn the kingdom out of your hand and given it to your neighbor David because you did not obey the voice of the Lord and did not carry out his Fierce wrath against am therefore the Lord Has Done these things to you or this thing to you this day

Moreover the Lord will give Israel also with you into the hand of the Philistines and tomorrow you and your sons shall be with me now let me the Lord before you go on did you hear what he said yep tomorrow you shall be with me because the Lord will hand you and your sons over to the Philistines and then I’ll read the last part I mean c you go read the Lord will give the army of Israel also into the hand of the Philistines now let me break this down just you can stop there right there let me break this down if you read 1 Samuel 25 it says Samuel was buried in Rama

Rama Gilead okay remember there here Samuel confirms to Saul you’ve been rejected by God it is over God has handed you over he basically committed what we’d call the blasphemy of the holy spirit because it’s done with tomorrow you and your sons will be with me because the Philistines are going to slaughter them now if you read The Narrative you read all the way to the end of the chapter it says that the sons of s Saul were killed like Jonathan Saul fell on his sword committed suicide now here’s where it gets juicy Saul was not allowed a proper burial it says the

Philistines took the body of Saul and desecrated it but he says tomorrow you’ll be with me well number one when Saul committed suicide his body wasn’t buried number two the bodies of his sons were not buried where Samuel was buried Sam was buried in ramama Rama I believe I keep saying Ram but it’s in Rama not Rama G I’m sorry Rama sorry I’m not I suck with Geography 1 Samuel 251 none of their bodies were buried where Samuel’s body was he was buried in Rama Saul wasn’t even buried until later when David fetched the body because his body’s being desecrated but he said

Tomorrow you’ll be with me and everything Samuel said happened because the next day they were killed just like he said the next day the Philistines defeated the Israelites just like he said but he said tomorrow you and your sons will be with me how physically they were not buried next to Samuel and the body of Saul hadn’t even been buried he was being desecrated what did Samuel mean that tomorrow you’ll be with me meaning when you die and you’re killed your souls will join Jo me here where I’m at just like when God told Abraham you’ll be gathered to your people to

Your fathers because physically they were not buried next to Samuel Saul wasn’t even buried for a while but he says tomorrow you and your sons will be and and you read next day they were killed Saul committed suicide Spirits left and they joined Samuel in the realm of the Dead can’t get around this now and think about go ahead go ahead I saying think about how absurd you have to make the interpretation to use the argument that sdas some sdas do and Jehovah’s Witnesses do that no no it wasn’t actually Samuel it was a demon I was gonna destroy that that was my next

Point Let’s assume it’s a demon so you’re telling me a demon is rebuking Saul instead of deceiving him confirming to Saul that God had rejected him and he died instead of deceiving him into thinking no you still found favor with God and then on top of that the Demon’s word came to pass because the very next day they die just like that demon said yeah yeah it’s going to get worse brother I’m now going to have you look but you’re gonna have to probably use revised Standard Version the book of serak now before they say well it’s not scripture hear me out number one the

Book of serak was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls they found three fragments of the book of Sak in the Dead Sea Scrolls meaning the Jews believed this book okay you say well I don’t care all right number two many Christians believe Sak was scripture you’ll say well I still don’t care number three even if you do not accept a scripture it still gives you an idea of what Jews believe about death and the afterlife and they didn’t believe like L G white they believe that when you die you don’t cease to exist why because you’re going to open up Sak 46 chapter

46 read 13 all the way to the end okay and just in passing here um for consistency sake as well Sam they love to appeal to the Book of Enoch which they don’t believe is scripture yet they’ll appeal to the Book of Enoch when it comes to uh the scapegoat for example trying to say that it’s uh typological of Satan so just a little inconsistency there it’s GNA get worse brother it’s going to get worse from me because I want to go to mcab I’m going to show them the problems they have there but go ahead remember Brothers you read this is pre-christian

Writing even if you don’t accept it as canonical it’s still written by Jews and this tells you that they didn’t think that Spirit was a demon because look what it’s going to say Samuel beloved by his Lord a prophet of the Lord established the kingdom and anointed rulers over his people by the law of the Lord he judged the congregation and the Lord watched over Jacob by his faithfulness he was proved to be a prophet and by his words he became known as a trustworthy worthy sear he called upon the Lord the mighty one when his enemies pressed him on every side and he offered in

Sacrifice a sucking lamb then the Lord thundered From Heaven and made his voice heard from a with a mighty sound and he whipped out the leaders of the people of Ty and all the rulers of the Philistines before the time of his eternal sleep Samuel called men to witness before the Lord and his anointed they’re going to say see Eternal sleep he slept not realizing it means rest because Eternal sleep doesn’t mean he sees us to exist watch because here’s the proof keep reading I have not taken anyone’s property not so much as a pair of shoes and no man accused him even

After he had fallen asleep he prophesied and revealed to the king his death and lifted up his voice out of the Earth in Prophecy to blot out the wickedness of the people so the Jew did not understand sleep to mean ceasing to consciously exist it means resting because they just affirm that Samuel even after he died prophesied prophesied correctly that Saul would die right there now even if you don’t accept it as scripture as many Christians did and as the Jews of the Dead Sea Scrolls did this still tells you that the oldest interpretation the pre-christian interpretation

Interpretation by Jews before the time of Christ is that that spirit that came out of the ground in 1st Samuel 2028 was no demon it was the actual Living spirit of Samuel who accurately prophesied and the Lord honored his words even after death because God had him prophesy after his physical death and made sure his words were fulfilled but let’s make it even worse for these Bible butcher again you’re going to say it’s not scripture but don’t worry about it because even if you rejected scripture you’re still stuck because I’m going to show you that Jesus and Paul held the

Same view go to Second mbes 15 11-19 second M 15 11-19 I’m sorry second mes 15 11- 17 why am I thinking 19 because we’re thinking about 1st Samuel 28 11:19 second mes 15 11- 17 now before you read it let me give you the historical background when you hit get it up second mccabes 15 11:17 before you read it the book of mbes are giving you the history of how the Jews reclaim the temple let me give you a little history you guys got to know this history around 167 BC in December the Pagan ruler of Syria Antiochus epes I4 entered Jerusalem slaughtered thousands of Jews

Took the temple defiled it by building an altar to Zeus and slaughtered a pig the Jews were irate at this blasphemy and sacriligious act so then two years later 165 BC a group of Jews headed off by Judas mbes the mban family Judas mbes in a zeil for the Lord summon a group of Jewish soldiers to fight the Syrian Army and God gave them Victory defeated them reclaimed the temple rededicated temple and that’s where you get Hanukkah the word Hanukah means dedication it’s celebrating this miraculous victory of Judas mccabes and his smaller Jewish Army who defeated the

Larger Pagan Army and rededicated the temple to God and they restored the temple guess what date December 25th 165 BC yep December 25th Iran the temple rededicated on December 25th 165 BC and the temple is God’s selling place and we’re told that Jesus’s physical flesh body became the temple of God and they rededicated the temple to God December 25th 165 BC but watch where I’m going to go with this in this context there was a high priest named onias who was killed unjustly he died now Judas mbes had a dream a vision of sorts and he’s going to recount the

Dream the vision to encourage his soldiers God has given me a sign we will win now pick it up from there SEC first second mccabes 15 11:17 he armed each of them not so much with confidence in Shields and Spears as with the inspiration of Brave words and he cheered them all by relating a dream a sort of vision which was worthy of belief what he saw was this now brother before you move on you notice said it’s worthy to believe keep that in mind keep going what he saw was this onus who had been high priest a noble and good man of modest bearing and gentle manner one who

Spoke fittingly and had been trained from childhood in all that belongs to Excellence was praying with outstretched hands for the whole body of the Jews okay brother before you I’m gonna have to stop you I’m sorry onias was dead he sees in a vision the Dead high priest onai is doing what stretching his hands still praying for his people on Earth but he’s dead now keep reading who else he sees now look at the other figure he sees then likewise a man appeared distinguished by his gray hair and dignity and of marvelous majesty and authority and onias spoke saying this is

A man who loves the Brethren and prays much for the people in the holy city Jeremiah Miah the prophet of God Jeremiah stretched out his right hand and gave to Judas a golden sword and as he gave it he addressed him thus take this holy sword a gift from God with which you will strike down your adversaries you’re confusing me he saw Jeremiah the prophet who had been dead at this time about 300 years because remember this is written around the second century BC Jeremiah died in the 6th Century BC and he sees Jeremiah alive and loving Jerusalem and

Praying for Jerusalem and giving him a sword in a vision and then he wakes up and what happens encouraged by the words of Judas so Noble and so effective in arousing Valor and Awakening manliness in The Souls of the young they determined not to carry on a campaign but to attack bravely and to decide the matter by fighting hand to hand with all courage because the city and the sanctuary and the temple were in danger are you telling me Jews before Christ believe that the dead in Christ those who died in un with God like Jeremiah the prophet are still alive and they

Have a spiritual shape by which you can still recognize them and they’re conscious and aware of what takes place on Earth and here they’re praying for God’s people on Earth according to this yes but now what they’re going to tell you well that’s not scripture well that’s not going to help you buddy because our lord Jesus celebrated Hanukkah are you guys aware John 10 John 102223 are you guys aware Jesus celebrated Hanukkah well without the book of makab you will not know what Hanukah is the story of Hanukah comes from first second mbes and there’s third

And fourth mbes so number one our Lord honored this Victory he acknowledged that this war and the Victory won by Judas mccabes and his Army and the dedication to Temple was a miraculous Act of God so he honored Hanukkah because he went to Jerusalem when it was Hanukkah and it was Winter read John 102223 for us okay John 10 22 to 23 yeah John 1022 to 23 and the word dedication you’ll have a note says Hanukkah it was the Feast of dedication AKA Hanukkah at Jerusalem it was Winter and Jesus was walking in the temple in the Portico of Solomon so the Jews

Gathered around him and said to him how long 23 2223 you want okay so look at any note it’s gonna tell you Feast of dedication and the note will say Hanukah notice it even tells you it’s winter that’s when it takes place and when when did they rededicate the t hanuk means dedication the year 165 BC December 25th and yet our Lord is celebrating a miraculous event a miraculous Victory not found in your 39 Old Testament books Adventist so the Lord is amening this event but these are the books that tell you that these Jews don’t believe like you they believe that

Those who die their souls are alive and conscious and alert and you can still recognize them which agrees with Matthew 17:3 Moses and Elijah appeared which agre with Luke 161 1931 so you got Luke 161 1931 Matthew 173 and4 2 mes 151 to 17 sirak 4613 following 1st Samuel 28 11:19 what more do you want both what you accept as canonical scripture and extra biblical sources telling you the Jews did not think like you now that our Lord and Paul believe this that Spirits continue exist and can be sent to appear to people yeah go to acts 236 to9 yeah they are the

Sadducees of today because it was the Sadducees who thought when you die you cease to exist not Paul who was a Pharisee who agreed with the Pharisees because there they were right angels and Spirits exist here acts 2369 but when Paul perceived that one part was Sadducees and the other Pharisees he cried out in the councel Brethren I am a Pharisee a son of Pharisees with respect to the hope and the resurrection of the Dead I am on trial and when he had said this a disension arose between the Pharisees and the Sadducees and the assembly was divided for the Sadducees say that there

Is no Resurrection nor Angel nor Spirit wait wait who brother brother when you die there is no spirit because notice Spirit here is not the same as Angel isn’t that what these Adventist butcher believe there well they believe in the Angels but they don’t believe that you continue to exist as a spirit when you die right correct the spirit is not a conscious aspect of our being and they believe that they believe that when you die you cease to exist that’s the belief of the Sadducees right here correct they don’t believe in Resurrection well you Adventists do they don’t believe in

Angels you do but they don’t believe in a spirit because you die you cease to exist there’s no Spirit left over but did Paul agree with them that means you agree with the Sadducees and Paul disagrees with you because notice keep reading for the Sadducees say there is no Resurrection nor Angel nor Spirit but the Pharisees acknowledge them all then a great clamor arose and some of the scribes of the Pharisees party stood up and contended we find nothing wrong in this man what if a spirit or an angel spoke to him oh we have no problem if a spirit spoke

To him like Moses and Elijah appeared like Samuel appeared like onias appeared like Jeremiah appeared we’re okay with that because we know they’re alive and God can send them with messages not just Angels so we’re in agreement with Paul so they’re telling you Paul doesn’t believe in your soul sleep and how can a spirit speak if it’s not a conscious thing right but notice they’re agreeing with Paul they’re coming to Paul’s Aid hey Sadducees why do you got a problem with him that believes that there are spirits and angels and Resurrection we agree with

Him Spirits can appear angels can appear right and the dead are raised in other words Paul just condemned you as Heretics because you don’t believe that you believe you die that’s it you cease to be conscious not Paul not Saul not the author of first Samuel not Jesus Peter James and John who spoke to Moses and Elijah not the author of mccabes and these all Jews it’s over for you guys man the honest thing to do is repent of your Blasphemous perversion of scripture now I’m ready for their blasphemy against Jesus so we can take care of that are we

There yep well we’re GNA be getting there we have to hear now okay oh their favorite favorite verse Adventist thing how did you know how did you know all right let’s listen all right yeah when we look at this let’s look at Ecclesiastes Ecclesiastes chapter 9 is really where we can see what happens to the dead persons it says this is an evil among all things that are done under the sun that there is one event unto all yay also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil and Madness is in their heart while they live and after that they go where the dead to they die right

For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope for all a living dog is better than a dead lion for the living know that they shall die but what do the dead know nothing the dead know not anything the dead know not anything neither have they anymore a reward for the memory of them is forgotten this is what happens to the dead there is no knowledge in in the grave right there is like when you’re dead you the Bible plainly tells you you know nothing also their love their hatred their Envy is now perished neither have they any more portion forever in anything that is done

Under the sun I’m going to add one more verse to that whatsoever thy hand findeth to do do it with all thy might for there is no work nor device nor knowledge nor wisdom in the grave whether thou goest so the Bible is telling us in the place that you’re going which is called the grave you don’t know anything and why I’m I I’m bringing this up because when you look at that word grave in the original Greek language 8785 it’s the same word Chio so now we have a little issue here the Bible says you will not leave his soul in yeah so if you want to say oh Jesus

Went to sh or Jesus went to Hades fine that’s what it says but what does the Bible tells us is in shio it says in shio there is no knowledge no device there nothing like the dead know nothing in the place that you’re going called shio there is no knowledge there so now you have to ask yourself this question how are you looking at the word Chio are you looking at the word Sho as hell where Lazarus is and and and the rich man is having a conversation which is a parable by the way or are you looking at it as what Ecclesiastes says shol is a place where

The dead know nothing and so this is where all the confusion really is we’re looking at all of these symbolic verses as if they’re actuality instead of what they really are symbolisms for something but in actuality the grave where people go the sh the Hades where people go is a place where people know nothing that is what the Bible is saying so where did Jesus go the Bible clearly tells us that he went to shol that’s where he went Hades is the Greek word for the Hebrew word shol and what the Bible says about shol is a place where they know nothing oh I get so sick of heing

Adventists parrot this verse and think it’s just a a home run but Ecclesiastes 9 says the dead know nothing and since Jesus was fully human in the Adventist case only human wall on Earth setting his divine nature aside this proves that Jesus knew nothing while he was dead and ceased to exist just to note Christian whenever you hear Adventist appeal here remind them that verse uh in verse seven the preacher gives an exhortation to be marry and drink your wine with a happy heart because God has already approved of what one does so put that in your health message pipe and smoke it

But nevertheless there you go Sam that sett you actually you hit it on the nail this again shows I hope you guys are listening you are Bible butcherer you are tools of Satan I hope you’re doing it in ignorance you’re going to repent but if not then you are deceivers and you deserve the Lord’s discipline may he have mercy on you if you guys don’t understand the point of Ecclesiastes let me give you a breakdown of Ecclesiastes if you start from chapter one and you read We Believe Solomon wrote it Solomon is describing Human Experience human wisdom

Human observation gained Under the Sun apart from Revelation in other words he’s showing the futility the stupidity the vanity of human life apart from God of human wisdom acquired apart from Revelation this is why if you don’t read that in light of what I said you’re going to have Solomon contradicting himself in the same book and giving you ungodly advice sinful advice and contradicting other statements of scripture for example he just said sh The Dead Know Nothing real quickly he just has Solomon contradicting can you read Isaiah 14 and read for me

911 watch this argument again but Isaiah 1499-1 all right shol beneath is stirred up to meet you when you come it Rouses the shades to greet you all who were leaders of the earth Shades RAF means The Souls of the Dead who are those Shades the leaders of the earth who have died and gone there reread it again 9 to1 shol beneatha stirred up to meet you when you come it Rouses the shades to greet you all who were leaders of the earth it raises from their Thrones all who were Kings of the Nations all of them will speak and say to you you too have become as weak as we

You have become like us your pop is brought down to Shel the sound of your Harps maggots are the bed beneath you and worms are your covering okay I’m confused how the heck do you have Shades meaning their shadow of their former self because if you don’t have a body you’re less than human because you’re meant to be a spirit inhabiting a body how are they speaking how are they talking to the king of Babylon whose body is now warm food but he’s down there with them see now they created a contradiction so then what are they going to do well they say that’s

Metaphorical this is literal on whose authority their own in other words they’re begging the question they think they have the right view of death and therefore when passages contradict their C they’ll say well that’s not literal that’s metaphorical this is literal by what Authority yeah so number one they create contradictions but now they’re GNA impune Solomon of giving ungodly advice because notice what you said Ecclesiastes 97 he says get drunk right be mared correct all right so is that really God’s wisdom that God wants you to just party up party it up live a

Hedonistic lifestyle no now can you do me a favor let me hold on my phone is messing up can you go to eclesiastes 712 let me show you how they’re now going to have Solomon contradict God’s moral ethical system and contradict himself Ecclesiastes 712 what does it say Ecclesiastes

712 watch here guys that tells you they don’t know how to interpret scripture this is why if he’s a doctor what was he a doctor of Music stick with music buddy don’t don’t touch the bible again glasses 712 what does it say wisdom is a shelter as money is a shelter but the advantage of knowledge is this wisdom preserves those who have it so money’s a shelter huh okay now watch what he says about money keep in mind money’s a shelter then go to Ecclesiastes 10:19 okay watch here how bad it’s going to get eclesiastes 10:19 h of course this thing yeah that’s all

Right if you got to use the other one use the other one

Yeah Ecclesiastes 10:19 watch here guys okay Bread is made for laughter and wine gladdens life and money answers everything they actually believe this is God’s wisdom money answers everything money solves all your problems well if you understand that the preacher is talking about life Under the Sun and he’s talking about the the life of the the wicked and that everything is Vanity and that you’re essentially chasing after the wind and that you really should uh the whole of of man is really to essentially live for God and not the things of the world um but when you’re

Handling the Bible the way that they are here where they think the Book of Ecclesiastes is basically a science textbook that the preacher is trying to tell you the anatomy of human uh of human nature um well you’re going to make this silly blunder like they do exactly you understand what he just said the Book of Ecclesiastes is not giving you God’s perspective God’s wisdom it’s saying apart from God apart from Revelation if you base everything on human observation experience then everything is a waste you’re going to end up dead so make the most of it in

Other words this is a manual for secular atheistic materialism because if he’s right money answers everything then Paul is wrong in 1 Timothy 6 6 to10 of being content and not seeking to make more money because the love of money is a root of many evils and wine gladin so I should get drunk so I can forget my problems that’s how they want to interpret this you see how bad it gets but then if they were being consistent they’d have to but go to Ecclesiastes 510- 14 because here he says money answers everything but now watch what he’s going to say Ecclesiastes 510 to 14 yet name it claim

It lanto name it claim it okay watch here Ecclesiastes 510- 14 see this again tells you these guys should not be teaching the Bible and they refuted me huh allegedly allegedly and they said they did so easily now you know what’s sad had it not been for you they would have been living in their arrogance thinking they refuted me because I wouldn’t even address them but it’s sad that they got your notice because they got obliterated and annihilated pun intended because they believe in Annihilation he who loves money will not be satisfied with money nor he who loves

Wealth with his income wait wait no bro it says money answers everything yeah didn’t he say in Ecclesiastes 10:19 money answers everything y why is he contradicting himself in Ecclesiastes 5 because what do he say about money and wealth now well that you won’t be satisfied with it read it for us and see so but over there he says money answers everything here he says no read it again he who loves money will not be satisfied with money nor he who loves wealth with his income this also is Vanity when good increase or when Goods increase they increase who

Eat them and what advantage has their owner but to see them with his eyes sweet is the sleep of a laborer whether he eats little or much but the full stomach of the rich will not let him sleep there is a g this evil that I have seen Under the Sun riches were kept by their o by their owner to his hurt and those riches were lost in a bad Venture and he is father of a son but he has nothing in his hand I’m confused brother now you can stop there goes on to talk about a son who’s lazy and gluttonous and he inherits what his father uh busted his back for but I

Thought Ecclesiastes 1019 says money is an answer for everything but here is saying no money is the cause of many woes and see he contradict himself but we got another one he doesn’t know the fate of an animal or a human what happens when they die and he doesn’t know if there’s an advantage of being a human over a beast go to Ecclesiastes 319 to 21 Ecclesiastes 319 to 21 it’s gonna get worse and I’m gonna tell you this is the last book you turn to to get a Theology of the afterlife and Resurrection yeah read what it says Ecclesiastes 319 to 21 this thing of course sorry here

Brother that’s sorry we got because then I guess after this is Jesus right they’re gonna be yep by the way guys catch it they just told you Jesus pretty much ceased to exist you’re hearing the blasphemers these tools of the devil saying when Jesus died he ceased to exist he wasn’t conscious so they are blasphemers they’re not Orthodox trinitarians you’re hearing it from these tools of Satan Jesus could not see CE to exist if he is still God on Earth but they’re telling you he did cease to exist because that’s what death is he was in conscience which means not only

Did he cease to exist but he wasn’t any longer God when he came to the Earth blasphemy on top of blasphemy for what happens to the children of man and what happens to the Beast is the same as one dies so dies the other they all have the same breath and man has no advantage over the Beast for all is Vanity all go to one place all are from the dust and through the dust all return okay who knows whether the spirit before you go on so okay man has no advantage over the Beast NOP he’s exactly all die and that’s it yep okay now keep reading all go to one place all are from

The dust and to the dust all return who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of Beast goes down into the Earth so I don’t know if it’s better being an animal or a man because there’s no Advantage we both die and no one can tell me what happens to my spirit or the Spirit by the way the word breath is Rock the spirit of a beast we all end up returning to us so maybe it’s better for me to be a dog at least I don’t work but hold on here he says in 21 he doesn’t know whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the Beast goes down right

That’s what it says right there talking about the the yeah the the vain person under the sun yeah but let’s go with them this is God’s view right but then he contradicts himself again because notice here in 21 guys he says who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward you don’t know that or whe the spirit of a beast goes down but he sure knows in Ecclesiastes 12:7 because look what he says in Ecclesiastes 127 okay Ecclesiastes 127 let’s see see if this will work again it’d be really nice if it would yes excellent and the dust returns to the ground it came from and the spirit

Returns to God who gave it brother but in 21 he says who knows where the spirit of man goes dude help me I guess I guess he was as confused maybe the writer was an Adventist maybe he was uh just as confused as they are wow so you’re telling me if we follow them then Solomon doesn’t know what he’s talking about and he’s contradicting himself left and right right correct because in in ecclesiast 3:21 who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward Spirit of Beast goes down because we all go to the dust who can answer that but he sure did Ecclesiastes 12:7 so here real quick

Real quick just so you can see it like I told you here’s an Adventist in chat that says what I told you earlier the spirit is the breath so there you go it’s not me just saying this ADV do claim this you’ll get Adventist that say that’s not true Adventists don’t claim that there you go continue yeah keep keep helping us dig your hole deeper for you but did you guys see it if we go with what Solomon said in ecclesiast 321 you don’t know whether the spirit goes back to God who gave it all you know is you go to the dust like the Beast so there is no

Advantage of Being Human rather than a beast in fact there are animals who have it better off than us I know dogs who live in mansions I don’t live in a mansion cats who live in a mansion but then later on he says oh yeah though the dust returns to the ground meaning our body but the spirit goes back to God who gave it but then he answered the question that he said who knows the answer because they don’t know how to handle this book now few more examples because then I’m gonna explain the point of Solomon you don’t build your theology on statements Ecclesiastes because he’s

Telling you the purpose of the book to show the futility the vanity the despair of trying to figure out things by human observation experience apart from Revelation you’re going to end up miserable and fact here let me prove it to you you’re gonna end up miserable if you don’t have God and Revelation all you do is observe the world it’s going to leave you depressed look what he says in Ecclesiastes 1 1618 a few more references and we’ll go into the Jesus part Ecclesiastes 1 1618 right there he tells you yep I said to myself look I’ve increased in wisdom more than

Anyone who has ruled over Jerusalem before me I’ve experienced much of wisdom and knowledge then I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom and also of Madness and Folly but I learned that this too is a chasing after the wind for with much wisdom comes much sorrow the more knowledge the more grief so you’re telling me it’s a v vain thing and a waste to pursue wisdom of God is that what he’s saying obviously he can’t mean that he’s not talking about that because that would be blasphemy correct it would be blasphemy to say pursuing knowledge of God wisdom of God is

Madness and Folly and an only irritates and agitates you because Jesus said eternal life is to know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent and we’re told in second Peter 3:18 to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ because this what happens when you have Bible butcher like those guys who don’t know the Bible and should be shutting up but then if we follow Solomon he doesn’t even think there is a resurrection because he thinks this is all the life you have to live do they agree with that what do I mean here go to Ecclesiastes chapter

3:22 and then we’re going to read Ecclesiastes 9 1-7 we’re going to read verses one four to see what he actually says in context Ecclesiastes 3:22 so I saw that there’s nothing better for a person than to enjoy their work because that is their lot for who can bring them to see what will happen after them yeah so all right what happens after dying who who can answer that question who can tell NADA that’s it you cease to be can you show me you guys where Solomon believes there’s a resurrection yes you’re using Solomon teach Soul sleep I’m taking a step

Further Solomon thinks this is the only life you have to live and make the most of it because when you die because you’ll never have a portion Under the Sun that sh sounds like a gloomy message where he doesn’t believe there’s a Resurrection new heaven new Earth how come you ignore that all right how about right how about Ecclesiastes 612 it’s like folks are you seeing the problem with this Hopscotch complete ignoring from the literary genre what it is you’re reading etc for who knows what is good for a person in life during the few and meaningless days they pass through like

A shadow who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone do they really want us to think that we cannot know what is good for us in this life so you mean forget God’s Commandments God’s revelation who tells us what’s best for us what to do what not to do so they want us to believe that Solomon’s gloomy message of Despair is God’s wisdom and that’s what God wants us to think you can’t know what’s good for you because your days are meaningless oh well sucks being you well that’s how you’d have to if you wanted to be consistent that’s how you’d

Have to handle the text based on the way that they handle Ecclesiastes 9 to say The Dead Know Nothing yep and now one more Ecclesiastes 1014 we’re gonna reread Ecclesiastes 9 in context and then we’re going to see how Solomon finishes it off so guys this is their best they have nothing better Ecclesiastes

1014 and fools multiply words no one knows what is coming who can tell someone else what will happen after them yeah so who can tell what will happen after them in other words miles can you tell me what will happen after I die can you tell me that there’s a resurrection and if I believe in Jesus I’ll live forever I can but Solomon says who can do that no no no no no no no no Solomon just told you three times you can’t tell anyone what’s gonna have happen after they die you don’t know it’s going to happen well yeah I can hey brother you die but the Lord will eventually return he’s

Going to judge living and the dead he’s going to destroy the wicked he’s going to us new Heaven and Earth and we who believe will live with him forever no you can’t say that you don’t know that what are you talking about dude are you on drugs now let’s reread Ecclesiastes 9: 1- 7 now let’s reread it and you’re going to see that at the end of his journey of studying and experiencing he says here is the duty of man here’s a conclusion so I reflected on all this and concluded that the righteous and the wise and what they do are in God’s hands but no one knows whether love or hate

Awaits them all share a common Destiny the righteous and the Wicked the good and the bad the clean and the unclean those who offer sacrifices and those who do not do they believe that brother do they believe that both the wicked and the righteous will have the same faith of course not but that’s what he just said in that very chapter that they quoted right but that that doesn’t jive with a Bible Hopscotch Che of Jesus I see as it is with the good so with the sinful as it is with the those who take Oaths so with those who are afraid to take them so it doesn’t matter brother

How you live you can break your Oaths or keep your OES you can be Wicked and sinful or righteous but you know what doesn’t matter this is the context you’re gonna die and cease to be that’s the context keep reading now this is the evil and everything that happens Under the Sun the same Destiny overtakes all the hearts of people moreover are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live and afterward they join the dead anyone who is among the living has hope even alive dog is better off than a dead lion for the living know that they will die but the

Dead know nothing they have no further reward and even their name is forgotten their love their hate and their jealousy have long since vanquished never again will they have a part in anything that happens Under the Sun go eat your food with gladness and drink your wine with a joyful heart for God has already approved what you do you understand what he saying you can stop there s do you understand what he’s saying he’s saying what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 151 12-19 if Christ has not been raised from the dead your faith is in vain eat drink and be married live it up for tomorrow

You die that’s what he’s saying why would you guys read five and six and ignore verses one all the way where he’s saying look apart from God in Revelation all I have to base what happens to mankind is from what I observe then you know what it doesn’t matter if you’re righteous or Wicked it doesn’t matter if you fear God or not it doesn’t matter if you keep yours or break them because we’re all going to die and cease to be and will have no portion Under the Sun he’s simply telling you that if there is no God and no Revelation then there is no advantage of being righteous over being

Wicked why should I be righteous why not be a thief and steal and party and live it up because we all die and we cease to be and will never live under the Sun but Brethren that’s what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 1512 to19 what did Paul say if the dead are not raised that means Christ has not been raised well if Christ has not been raised that means you believe in vain your faith is useless because you’re believing for nothing because when you die you cease to exist so live it up eat drink and be married because this is the only life you have have that’s what Solomon’s

Saying if there is no God there is no Revelation and God hasn’t made known to us the fate of the dead then all we know for certain is what atheists and humanists and materialists say we only have one life to live let’s make the most of it because when we die that’s it baby nothing Under the Sun and this is their proof text that when you die you cease to be conscious but now let me show you that Solomon is showing you the futility of trying to gather wisdom from Human observation experience without God and His Revelation because then he tells you

No there is hope and here’s the duty of man go to Ecclesiastes 12 read 12-

14 and this was their best huh yeah this is like their go-to favorite verse be warned my son of anything in addition to them of making many books there is no end and much study wearies the body now all has been heard here’s the conclusion of the matter fear God and keep his Commandments that is the duty of all mankind for God will bring every deed into judgment including every hidden thing whether it is good or evil so he tells you after all that after all these years of human observation and it caused me depression and left me without hope but there is

Hope because God is real and God has made his will known and here is the duty of man fear Him obey him because he will then recompense you for what you’ve done on Earth so there you go so that was their best they have nothing the Bible destroys and obliterates they’re butchering of scripture now I hope they’re doing it in ignorance and they they repent if not not the Lord rebuked them and Expos them because now we’re left with their blasphemy against Jesus they’ve already shown you they’re not true Christians they’ve already shown you they don’t have the same Jesus

Brethren when they tell you that Jesus on Earth cease to be conscious ceased to exist when he died not only they telling you they believe that when you die you cease to be they’re denying that Jesus was God on Earth because if he was God on Earth he cannot cease to be conscious even when he died physically so they’re blasphemers they’re not true Christians let’s let’s go through their butchering of scripture I may have to stop you at key points because there are passages where they’re saying well I don’t know if he sustained the he was sustaining as

A man or not I’ll show you that no he was but anyway but the issue is you know um Jesus is a little bit different and so this is where it’s it’s a little bit tricky because he’s saying he brought he brought up some other questions he’s like well then who’s running the universe that’s the easy question to answer but then it’s like Jesus is a little bit different because in his nature he is truly God and he is truly man um let me show you some verses for us to consider right in his nature Jesus is truly God and he’s truly man and so the Bible tells us straight up he truly

Did die and we do believe that he did die you know and so who only have imort imort talking about God dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto whom no man have seen nor can see to whom be honor and power Everlasting amen so God is the only one that is Immortal and so when we look at Jesus’s nature we can look at uh Philippians chapter 2 and this is honestly a very very difficult question but this is what it says about Jesus it says let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus who being in the form of God though it not rob to

Be equal with God but made himself of no reputation and took upon him the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of men and being found in fashion as a man he humbled himself and became obedient unto death as a man he truly died even the death of the Cross wherefore God also hath highly exalted him and given him a name which is above every name that at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow when we when we dig underneath this verse right it says says who being in the form of God what this is saying in the original language uh Philippians 2:6 it says being in the

Form g344 it’s morphe form but if we look at a Strong’s Concordance it says his Nature by Jesus’s nature he is God that’s his nature but then what happened he put on the nature of man it says he took upon him the form of a servant and made in the likeness of man he took on him human nature so Jesus was truly human and Jesus was truly God and you know the Bible even talks about this as a mystery it says in 1 Timothy 3:16 and without controversy great is the mystery of godliness God was manifest In the Flesh come on that’s a mystery justified in the spirit seen of angels preach unto

The Gentiles believed on in the world received up into Glory so there are some things that is mysterious about Jesus Christ even considering what he says here in John 10: 17 and 18 He says this therefore doth my father love me because I lay down my life that I may take it again no man taketh it from me but I lay it down of myself I have power to lay it down and I have power to take it again this commandment have I received of my father so this is a very mysterious thing about Jesus Christ this is a very mysterious thing because he’s the only one that could go to shio where is a

Place that no one knows anything that you’re dead you’re actually completely fully dead and he’s the only one that could come out of that and live yeah how that’s above my pay grade to really fully understand that because he’s God he’s Jesus he has life inside of himself it’s a mystery but at the same time this is what Jesus is capable of doing he’s capable of being fully truly dead and still um alive for ever more okay so now the mentioning of the hypothetic union and Philippians 2 which we saw earlier from the SDA Church’s own website is all lip service because the

Adventist Jesus was only a man while on Earth and he set his divine nature aside that’s the SDA Bible commentary Ellen White and their own website claims about this paropy but folks let’s also not forget what else the SDA organization uses Philippians 2 to try and claim which Jason left out and creates serious problems in conjunction with what we saw earlier on their website notice signs of the times an official organ of the SDA church this is after they’re supposed to have their Orthodox christology locked in in 1898 with Ellen White’s Desire of

Ages she’s still alive at this point quote the Eternal Word gave himself he did not aspire to be equal with God did not Medi uh meditate a usurpation of the Throne of the universe Philippians 2 5-7 but he emptied himself gave himself then and there for Sinners he took the form of a servant becoming an angel among the angels that he might redeem Angels but they would not and when they rejected the righteousness and life so freely offered he descended low were still to those duped by Satan Fallen man stooping even to death that he might redeem of

The Fallen all who desire to be redeemed and vindicate to the universe to all eternity the character of God that was the work of the word of God the Eternal logos when he became Michael the Archangel when he became Jesus the man of Nazareth when he was anointed the Christ when he died our sacrifice on Calvary yet during all this time the host of evil with all the baleful deceptive cruel devices of sin were hurled against him that God’s character might be marred that the great Vindicator Redeemer might fall close quote so the Adventist Jesus Took on an

Angelic nature not just the role of a messenger but an angel nature and became Michael the Archangel and he did this allegedly to try and save the angels that rebelled but they rejected him so then he condescended even lower taking on the nature of a man to seek to redeem Humanity in doing so he set his divine nature aside that he received in his pre-earth exaltation to be made equal with God the Father something that we have looked at countless times on this platform including when Sam has been here again this is not a one-off a year later in the same publication

Quote he talking about Jesus Took the nature of angels to repeat the first step then in his humiliation in laying aside his divine nature was to put on the nature of angels and thus it is that we have Jesus brought to view as Michael the Archangel the commander of the hosts of Heaven the captain of the host of the Lord and as such the armies in heaven follow him when he became an angel he bore A fitting name even as when later he became a man his name befitted the nature which he took by virtue of his birth into our uh Human family that name was Emmanuel God With Us his name as an

Angel is Michael which signifies the one who is like God whatever the name that he takes in crushing sin and rebellion in Redeeming the lost and in restoring Harmony to the universe that name must indicate that God is in him and with him on the very plane and in the very nature of the class of beings to whom he is sent by by living the god life on the plane of angels of which Satan was one although Fallen he could neutralize the force of Satan’s accusations thus when he became an angel the fact must not be lost sight of that he was God with the

Angels yet living on their plane possessing their natures and this thought is preserved in the name that he bears as an angel close quote so the adventage Jesus is a false Christ that is not real this also evidences that the SDA movement doesn’t even use the word God the same way that Christians do I have said I don’t know how many times on this platform they use all the same language but mean entirely different things even down to the word God in the SDA great controversy Paradigm you have a Jesus that was exalted to be made equal with God the father but then

Condescended down and became an angel to try and redeem the Angels contrary to Hebrews chapter 2 that he doesn’t help Angels but The Offspring of Abraham but these angels that rebelled against Satan Jesus condescended down to try and save them but they rejected him so then he condescended even lower down to the level of humanity to seek to redeem them so Jason needs to study up on his movements fake God and uh they also need to account for the their Jesus’s Angel nature that he supposedly has and any Appeal on their part to the hypostatic union is merely lip service

That is unless they want to denounce their organization’s own website own Publications and their own profetus now Sam in spite of these insane claims in signs of the times Philippians 2 apparently proves that Jesus truly died as we have seen uh the whole night meaning he ceased to exist and it disproves the classical Christian teaching on death your response yeah now it’s ironic guys I hope you caught it he admits he took on human nature but he didn’t say he stopped having divine nature catch it careful he was careful took on human nature but he didn’t stop

Having divine nature and then notice the contradiction did you guys catch it contradiction he said yes it’s a mystery because 1 Timothy 3:16 Says a mystery I don’t know how he went to sh right the place where if you go that means you cease to be consciously exist but he still alive I don’t know how because notice he had said it unless I misheard him he’s saying because he’s truly God he’s living but he’s truly human and he truly died according to their definition and if you’re in sh that means you cease to exist so he’s truly inal so he truly ceased to exist

But he’s still Immortal and he’s still alive but that’s a mystery I don’t know how to explain it so he’s admitting he’s got a contradiction either you’re living or you are ceasing to be you can’t be both alive and cease to be because to cease to exist cease to be cease to be conscious means you’re not living you’re not alive he wants to have his cake and E it too but here’s what’s ironic up until this point they kept appealing to lexans and in first Timothy 3:16 where it says great is the mystery of Godly see it’s it’s a mystery he even misappropriated the term mystery

Mysterion doesn’t mean something incomprehensible it means something that was hidden but now revealed brother can you look at the lexical definition what does it say a mystery secret of which initiation is necessary um in the New Testament the councils of God once hidden but now revealed in the gospel or some fact thereof the Christian Revelation generally particular truths or details of the Christian Revelation now what does help’s word study says the one right beneath okay the root of the English term mystery in the Bible a mystery Mysterion is not something

Unknowable rather it is what can only be known through Revelation I.E because God reveals it and how ironic that they were appealing to Greek lexans earlier you see so did did you catch it the primary meaning unless they can show us contextually what Paul is saying this secret purpose of God has now been made known in the Incarnation when God comes in the flesh our lord Jesus what God had purposed that was not made known has now been unveiled and revealed by God coming in the flesh so I don’t know where they got that means now a better one would

Have been passages where it says that God is beyond comprehension but now notice they want their cake and eat it too so I don’t really know what to ref besides the clear obvious contradiction because they’re saying he took on human nature they don’t want to say he ceased to be God they don’t want to say that he sees possessing the divine nature but in what they said about him not sustaining the universe that’s what I want to get to so I can demolish that that means that if he’s not sustaining the universe that in some sense he stopped being God or in

Some sense they’re arguing that he set aside certain Divine privileges none of which is what the Bible teaches because their ignoramuses don’t know the Bible so the only thing I can now nitpick is clear contradiction you’re saying he died truly a human death which means he ceased to exist because if you go to sh you cease to exist but because he is god with a divine nature he’s ever living he’s Immortal so he’s both living and ceasing to be so he’s alive and not alive he was continually existing and ceasing to exist if this is not a blatant contradiction I don’t know what

Is but are we gonna get to the point where they say well he wasn’t sustain that one was a Oh that was oh yeah oh yeah you ready oh yeah that’s the part I wanted to take apart yeah well one thing on that actually Jason read John 10 17-8 which also backfires on them because notice this is what I was telling you about earlier yep Ellen White quote Christ submitted to crucifixion although the Heavenly Host could have delivered him the Angels suffered with Christ God himself was crucified with Christ for Christ was one with the father those who reject Christ those who will not have

This man to rule over them choose to place themselves under the rule of Satan to do his work as his bond slaves yet for them Christ yielded up his life on Calvary that’s quoting the SDA Bible commentary which is what they’re they’re pulling the SDA Bible commentary is pulling this from Ellen White continues he who died for the sins of the world was to remain in the Tomb the a lotted time he was in that Stony prison house as a prisoner of divine Justice he was responsible to the judge of the universe he was bearing the sins of the world and his father

Only could release him close quote so their divinely inspired propheus claimed that only the father could raise Jesus which is like I said earlier consistent with their model that the AVST Jesus only was a man on Earth as we saw on the website and other sources setting his divine nature aside and he she also claimed that he feared that separation was to be Eternal with God the father and sin was so Grievous that he wouldn’t be resurrected all other things that Ellen White claimed in Desire of Ages and that we’ve looked at both on your platform and while you were

On here Desire of Ages page 753 I believe it is Satan with his fearce Temptations rung the Heart of Jesus while he was on the cross causing him to doubt the resurrection and he couldn’t see through the portals of the Tomb and he feared that sin was so Grievous that his separation from the father was to be Eternal she contradicts not just the scriptures with this quote here but herself because elsewhere like we saw earlier she claims that Jesus resed himself even though he wasn’t conscious in any capacity in the grave and he ceased to exist for 3 Days

Nevertheless this was just more pontificating and reading proof text on their part it has not been demonstrated yet that what sdas assume in the word death is that that means a total cessation of any conscious activity whatsoever and that you’re only remembered in the mind of God um to then possibly have your character ported into a new body that the Adventist God will make for you if you were found worthy of Salvation helping vindicate the the Adventist God against Satan from these accusations in the great controversy because Sam they don’t actually believe

In true Resurrection they believe that God is going to make INF fashion a new body and Infuse into that new body of new particles your character from his memory at a later point in the future not that not that what was sewn into the ground like Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:42 that what is sown is then raised it’s first sown to then be raised now you’re obviously going to get Adventists on this that say that’s not true yes it is that’s what the SDA Bible commentary says and that is what this is what they are pulling from this is Ellen White on this exact subject I got to

Read this quote because again you know that there’s going to be Adventists that say that’s not true here it is personality preserved in a new body our personal identity is preserved in the resurrection though not the same particles of matter or material substance as when into the grave the wondrous works of God are a mystery to man The Spirit the character of man ah another way that they use the term spirit is return to God there to be preserved in the resurrection every man will have his own character God in his own time will call forth the dead giving again the Breath

Of Life there you see it Sam and bidding the dry bones live the same form will come forth but it will be free from disease and every defect it lives again bearing the same individuality of features so that friend will recognize friend there is no law of God in nature which shows that God gives back the same identical particles of matter which compose the body before death God shall give the righteous a body that will please him no they don’t believe in Resurrection they believe in something closer to cloning just like Joe’s Witnesses they believe exact because Charles ta Russell

Was influenced by the millerites the Adventists they believe the same exact thing yep same exact thing difference is as they will claim that their trinitarians whereas yours witnesses will say no Jesus was created as a first of God’s creation brought into existence which is the initial original belief of the Adventists that’s what they believe correct yep so all right well let’s get back into this now we’re gonna get into what you were just asking about but um I do want to get into how is he able to run the universe while being dead did you guys want to do that because I do

Have an answer for that yeah and um I think uh simply F show um basically just asked this question so let’s let’s answer that question so Sam shamon said how could the universe run or who’s running the universe if Jesus died but you know I could ask Sam Shimon the same question who was running the universe when Jesus was a fetus in the womb who was running the universe when Jesus was an infant as a matter of fact let’s look at what the Bible says the Bible says in Luke 2 verse 52 the Bible says and Jesus increased in wisdom and stature and favor with God

And man so we understand that Jesus although he was fully God 100% fully God in his human form there were points in his Boyhood where he didn’t just know everything we understand that Jesus growing up had to learn things correct so we understand that at at certain points that you know Jesus was not running the Universe I wish you had that folks yep catch that I wish he had asked me that question because friend I would have pulverized you and buried you if you asked me who was running the universe when Jesus was an embryo in his mother’s womb or a child I would have buried you

For being a tool of Satan and a blasphemer here’s my my answer Jesus Jesus as God one with the father and the spirit never stopped sustaining Creation with the father and the Spirit by his powerful word so that while being conceived in his mother’s womb he was sustaining preserving both his mother and his own human nature and even while he was a toddler as God he never sees sustaining creation and yet as a man he grew but because you’re a Bible butcherer you don’t know scripture it says the same Jesus who on Earth knew everything so let’s go through this

Destruction of this blasphemy okay now brother go to Hebrews 1 and I want you to read for me verses two to three see these guys are not Christians they’re tools of Satan so I wish you had asked me that I would say Jesus Jesus was sustaining his mother Jesus was sustaining her body Jesus was sustaining his human nature his physical body with the father spirit not alone all three the one God and Jesus while even as a toddler by virtue being God is preserving all creation and his own body his own human nature his own human soul and mind with the father and spirit here

Let me prove it go to Hebrews 1 verses 2 to 3 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his son whom he appointed heir of all things and through whom also he made the universe the sun is the radiance of God’s glory glory and the exact representation of his being sustaining All Things by his powerful word after he had provided purification for sins he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven now watch here two says that God the father created the ages through the sun and the son sustains all the ages by his powerful word by his command now notice nothing in that

Passage indicates he stopped doing so during the time he offered purification for our sins nothing in point of fact in verses 10 to 12 the father addressing the son says that’s something impossible for Christ in other words Christ being God could never at any moment stop sustaining all creation even during his time on the earth because look what the father says to the son in Hebrews 1:10 to12

He also says in the beginning Lord you lay the foundations of the earth and the heavens are the work of your hands they will perish but you remain they will wear out like a garment you will roll them up like a robe like a garment they will be changed but you remain the same and your years will never end not according to these blasphemers here the father says to the son quoting Psalm 102 you are the Lord who laid the foundations of the earth and you made the heavens by the work of your hands your power you remain the same on like creation that’s changing

You roll them up but you are the same your years never end that means if this is true from the moment Christ with the father and spirit created the heavens and the Earth has never stopped sustaining creation because he Remains the Same and his years never end and he doesn’t change therefore that means this one Eternal Divine person though he entered the world became flesh by virtue of being God he remains consistently The God Who sustains creation even during his time on earth when he was conceived by the Virgin grew and died on the cross at no point does it say he stopped I’m

Going to prove it from the gospels go to Colossians 1 16- 17 in fact Colossians 1 read 16 20 okay now everyone else listening are you we have about 500 yours and mine combined about 500 so glory to God made the numbers increase and you get more traffic now everyone understand what my answer is yeah read Colossians 1 16 to 20 for in him all things were created things in heaven and on Earth visible and invisible whether Thrones or powers or rulers or authorities all things have been created through him and for him he is before all things and in him all

Things hold together yep and he is the head of the body the church he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead so that in everything he might have the supremacy for God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him and through him to reconcile to himself all things whether things on earth or things in Heaven by making peace through his blood shed on the cross now brotherr in verse 17 says he is present tense not was he is currently before all things meaning not only he’s uncreated but he’s Supreme over all things but then it says it’s in

Him all things consist that he has the creative power that enables him to sustain every part of creation but then in verses 19 to 20 says even while he was reconciling all things on earth and in heaven to God the Father by the blood of his cross even during that time God’s fullness was still dwelling in him so when did he stop sustaining and preserving creation never at no point in time he has never stopped so this guy is a Bible butcherer and a blasphemer and I hope he repents and not be stubborn because that was a wicked Blas shows you need to stop you’re dangerous you’re of

The devil may you repent before the Lord reuk you all right still not convinced let me show you now that Jesus while on Earth was still all knowing while on Earth was still omnipresent while on Earth go to John 16 25-31 a knew exactly where we were going because you see he now that you speak clearly yes but you see he was quoting passages where Jesus as truly human grew in wisdom stature that’s true but because he’s didn’t stopped being God he was still all knowing it’s both and not either or you Bible perverts John 231 but notice remember two earlier they

Tried to appeal to the hypothetic union they tried to say that Adventists just like the website says we believe in the hypothetic union no you don’t it’s all just lip service you don’t know what that means and this is going to prove it though I have been speaking figuratively Jesus speaking here a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my father in that day you will ask in my name I’m not saying that I will ask the father on your behalf know the father himself loves you because you have loved me and have

Believed that I came from God I came from the father and entered the world now I’m leaving the world and going back to the father then Jesus’s disciples said now you’re speaking clearly and without figures of speech now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions this makes us believe that you came from God do you now believe Jesus replied so notice he doesn’t rebuke them but notice they can’t tap dance around this you’re not speaking figuratively metaphorically Adventist nope you’re speaking clearly

And because of that now we know you know all things and he’s on Earth and you don’t need anyone question you meaning you don’t need anyone to question you to test to see if you know what you’re talking about we now are convincing in all things and Jesus says that you finally believe it took you a while so before his death and Resurrection on Earth he knew all things even after his resurrection same group of disciples This Time Peter what does he say in John 21:7 before and after what does it how did I know that you were going there because Brilliant Minds think like and

You’re brilliant Mis the third time he said to him Simon son of John do you love me Peter was hurt because Jesus said to or asked him the third time do you love me he said Lord you know all things you know that I love you Jesus said feed my sheep now we know that Peter means it literally because why because it says he got hurt he asked him three times so then that proms him say Lord you already know everything you know all things you know if I love you or not why do you keep asking so it cannot be metaphorical you are the Lord who knows everything

You already know if I love you or not so why ask me three times so before and after the resurrection he knows all things okay now keep that in mind he knows all things now go to Luke 10:22 we got a few oh I guessed 1 John 3:20 yes well that’s God knows everything but I’m focusing on Jesus because that’s John 320 because that’s God they’ll say that’s God the Father I’m focusing on Jesus because that’s for first John 320 God right knows everything but they’ll say yeah that’s God the Father no I’m talking about Christ who’s God the son and hypostatic Union if you guys don’t

Know what that means folks he’s one Divine person who unites two Natures but neither nature right ceased to be in him he was still truly fully God truly fully human so either you don’t know what apostatic Union is or are you again paying lip service now watch watch here Luke

10:22 all things have been committed to me by my father no one knows who the son is except the father and no one knows who the father is except the son and those to whom the son chooses to reveal him now if I ask you a question here while on Earth before his death and Resurrection he says the father is the only one who knows the Son and the only one able to know the son now if I ask you does the father know the son inside and out every aspect of the son every thought of the son yes but Jesus says it’s reciprocal the way the father knows me I know the

Father and only the father knows me and I alone know the father in the same way the father knows me that mean Jesus just claimed while on Earth he knows the father inside and out every aspect of the father every thought of the father but the father’s infinite and omnicient how can he know the Father the same way the father knows him without this making him omniscient because it takes an omniscient mind to know an infinite being or an infinite person in this case because their being is the same and then he claims to be incomprehensible like the father just like no one can

Comprehend the father if you’re a creature but I’m no mere creature likewise no one can comprehend me and this is why he’s on earth now go to John 22325 we got a few that Christ was omnipresent even on Earth okay John 22325 yep show you now he’s omnipresent even on earth now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name but Jesus would not entrust himself to them for he knew all people he did not need any testimony about Mankind for he knew what was in each person did you catch it he knew

All he knows everyone he knows what’s in each person he knows all things doesn’t need to be questioned he knows the father to the same set the father knows him and this is on Earth before his death and Resurrection was he omnipresent on earth now let me explain what we mean physically bodily Jesus is located in one place at one time but because he didn’t cease to be God as God he is the everpresent all knowing Creator and sustainer and he has to be everpresent if he’s still sustaining every part of creation while on Earth and here’s the proof go to John 4 read

For US 43 to 54 so we got three more texts this one and two others what was it John 4:43 to 54 pay attention Christ physically on Earth because he’s God didn’t cease to be God overseeing creation superintending creation is able to do Miracles without physically being there watch after the two days he left for Galilee now Jesus himself had pointed out that a prophet has no honor in his own country when he arrived in Galilee the galileans welcomed him they had seen all that he had done in Jerusalem at the Passover festival for they also had been there once more he visited kaaa in

Galilee where he had turned the water into wine and there was a certain Royal official whose son lay sick in Capernaum when this man heard that Jesus had arrived in Galilee from Judea he went to him and begged him to come and heal his son who was close to death now pay attention brother he begged Jesus to do the miracle right so come down correct yep keep going folks you know where this is going because we talk about this a lot on here and I bring this up a lot unless you people see signs and wonders Jesus told him you will never believe the Royal

Official said sir come down before before my child dies go Jesus replied your son will live the man took Jesus at his word and departed while he was still on the way his servants met him with the news that his boy was living when he inquired as to the time when his son got better they said to him yesterday at 1 in the afternoon the fever left him then the father realized that this was the exact time at which Jesus J had said to him your son will live so he and his whole household believed this was the second sign Jesus performed after coming from Judea to Galilee

Meaning he went on a he went on a multi-day journey and he was traveling to see Jesus asked him to heal his son Jesus said go your son will live on his journey back his men yep his men meet him and he finds out that his son was healed he asks when and he finds out it was that the exact hour that Jesus himself who did the healing not the Holy Spirit not the father had done the healing but was not physically present with the boy he said go your son lives so he knew his son would Liv because he had healed him but the son was a day away from Jesus physically so that’s one example

Let’s go to the other example there’s two more john: 145 to 49 you got a guy mark V who’s shaken he’s losing faith in SDA on my channel I sent you a private chat so go to answering adventism website uh YouTube channel brother here’s the other one John 145 to 49 yep the Fig Tree and now I’ll give you another one because these are ones I brought up in the past but so he’s still omnipresent he’s still omniscient he’s still omnipotent because notice he’s got to be present ever if he’s still overseeing and preserving creation which is why he doesn’t have to be physically there to

Command demons and healing because he’s overseeing creation he’s in control while on Earth physically John 14549 Philip found Nathaniel and told him we found the one Moses wrote about in the law and about whom the prophets also wrote Jesus of Nazareth the son of Joseph Nazareth can anything good come from there Nathaniel asked come and see said Phillip when Jesus saw Nathaniel approaching he said to to him here truly is an Israelite in whom there is no deceit how do you know me Nathaniel asked Jesus answered I saw you while you were under the tree emphasize I saw you correct

Before Philip came and called you while he sitting on the Fig Tree keep going then Nathaniel declared Rabbi you are the Son of God and are the king of Israel now break it down miles why would he be shocked that Jesus knew him already remember it said in John 22325 Jesus knew all he knew what was in every man he already knew what was in Nathaniel without even having seen him physically because it’s their first physical encounter he already knew what was in him and he already saw him what does that mean Nathaniel finds him and clearly knows that Jesus is not this individual

Is not physically present with them he then goes to meet this individual that he’s probably been taught his whole life um is the Messiah or or rather he’s been taught about the Messiah his whole life and now somebody’s coming to him and telling him yo the messiah’s here so they get up they go to where he is and Jesus tells him this that he saw him under the Fig Tree at which Nathaniel’s or or uh his his mind is blown Nathaniel’s mind is blown because he knows that Jesus was not physically present there yet he tells him that he saw him under the Fig Tree and he knew

What was in him like John 22325 says he knew all men he already knows what’s in man he already knew Nathaniel knew what was in Nathaniel without having met him now the final one well not just that but then the following verse after this where Jesus continues to go on uh right it continues and he says if you’re really like blown away by this you’re going to see things far beyond this that are going to blow your mind yeah you’re going to see Angels ascending descending upon the son of man John 15051 final example that Christ is omnipresent on Earth that he didn’t cease to be God in

All his fullness Mark 7:2 24-30 there you go so he never stopped being God he didn’t stop being omnicient omnipresent omnipotent but now I don’t want them to TA St man we don’t believe Jesus worked alone he with the father and spirit all three of them together as one God did all the Miracles and and in conjunction with Colossians 1 which says the fullness of deity dwelt in him bodily yep on Earth as he was reconciling all things on the cross which took place on Earth correct Jesus left that place and went to the vicinity of Ty he entered a house

And did not want anyone to know it yet he could not keep his presence Secret in fact as soon as she heard about him a woman whose little daughter was possessed by an impure Spirit came and fell at his feet the woman was a Greek born in s uh Syrian Phoenicia she begged Jesus to forgive the demon out of or to drive the demon out of her daughter first let the children eat all they want he told her for it is not right to take the children’s bread and to toss it to the dogs Lord she replied even the dogs under the table eat the children’s crumbs then he told her for such a reply

You may go the demon has left your daughter she went home and found her child lying on the bed and the demon go gone you guys caught it right he wasn’t there physically she’s asking him doing a miracle go the Demon’s already gone because he already got rid of the demon though he wasn’t physically there and it’s Jesus doing the casting out of the demon so everyone caught it right he’s doing it and he’s telling her he’s already gone or like when he told the man your son lives he’s already taken care of it go I’ve seen you before Philip came to you he never stopped

Being the fullness of God while on Earth anyone who teaches otherwise blasphemy now I don’t know what else they have is that it or they got more they got more but let’s uh let’s finish that up in a part two I feel like we’ve done a a plenty good decimation here we can finish this off maybe you can come back next week if you are available and we can we can finish this off and then again folks now you’re seeing why uh this platform ignores these individuals it almost feels like we are punching down um but they want to bark like dogs they want to be arrogant they want to

Act like they um have it all figured out um they decimated Sam um they’ve decimated answering adventism and uh for any honest person tonight I think it’s very clear um this is simply a cope they are coping um and so gentlemen I know that you are watching this if your stream is still going I don’t know if it is and I’m not going to watch your silly stream you had the opportunity to come over here just like you did months ago before you started doing your silly summonsing where you claimed that people to come and stand before you like you’re some sort of Monarch or something like

That you guys didn’t show up and instead started saying I need to show up to your platform or I’m scared yeah we’re not playing little kindergarten games I’m not doing all that you had the opportunity to come over here tonight since you wanted to get the guy who was originally supposed to be here to not show up and you guys didn’t show up instead you sat in your bunker and you shot spitballs like I said from your spiritual squirt guns I’m sure and made all sorts of silly claims and arguments but I think for tonight this is was a a plenty plenty good burial that’s why I

Don’t watch these guys let you know guys you guys let me be honest you’re Bible butcher you’re neop fites you’re biblically illiterate you are the very people that Peter warned against in second Peter 3:15-16 unstable untaught you distort the scripture to your humiliation now I pray you’re doing it in ignorance you’ll be convicted repent but if you double down the Lord rebuke you and protect people from you false teachers the Lord bless this young man bless me to walk worthy of Jesus in the power of the Holy Spirit never shame the Lord finish the race and that Jesus our

Lord will be magnified in and through us now for all of you we had about 600 because on my channel we had over 400 you had about 130 all of you here go to Miles Channel subscribe like the video there and watch and support because he’s the leading Authority decimating this cult it is a Blasphemous cult they’re not really trinitarians and may the Lord preserve him provide for his ministry provide for him Ministry and bless us for the glory of Christ so brother thank you man I’ll be back next week you let me know Lord willing I’m here amen and thank you all

For being here as well may Christ richly bless you in the grace and peace won by Christ and his vicarious death on the cross for Sinners Hallelujah maratha until next time amen